Michael Pack

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567 appearances 5 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2025 last heard 5 Sep

Michael Pack’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But look, Steve, when you're attacked, either you capitulate or fight back.

Those are the only two choices.

And I did not want to capitulate.

I mean, it just...

It didn't seem right.

I mean, the president trusted me.

You know, I didn't, you know, either you back down in humiliation or you don't.

And it's true that I lost a lot of friends during that process, but I gained a lot of friends, too.

I mean, you yourself said that you didn't think I had it in me and neither did I, actually.

So some people got renegotiated.

nude respect for me.

Perhaps you too.

I don't know.

You had a lot of respect before.

So I don't know.

That's what happens when you're attacked.

Either you fight back or you quit.

Those are the two choices.

To me, I mean, so there are things that I knew.

I mean, we've talked about this before.

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