Michael Pack
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567 appearances
5 recordings
1 series
first heard Oct 2025
last heard 5 Sep
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I think it was very important to get realistic footage to bring people into feeling what people felt like, um, at especially at Kabul Airport at the end.
of the film.
So we come up with the idea and then it's a challenge to get people to agree to be interviewed.
And this film in particular, we deal, as you know, with moral injury with people who really suffered
Horribly, I'm sure we'll get to talk about that later.
And so to get them to share their stories, you have to really build up trust with them.
You can't just say, you know, show up and shoot them.
To talk to them for a while, you have to, you know, credibly be willing to tell the tell their story in a fair way.
Um, and even for people we disagree, we try to do that.
And
I think we we we want to give their side.
And I think most people have, you know, always felt that we have done that.
So it's a big process getting the interviews.
It's a big process getting the archival together.
And then there are the discoveries you make along the way.
I mean, I didn't know when I started this film that the two huge focuses, which maybe we will talk about later, are the zero units clearing the airport and this moral injury.
Injury question.
I never even heard the term moral injury before I started the film.
As you know, and maybe some of your listeners do, but I didn't know.
Moral injury is when you're involved in something that runs against your moral code, your values.
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