Michael Pollan
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And over time, the grooves get deeper and deeper and you can't go down the hill without falling into one of those grooves. The psychedelics are like a fresh snowfall that fills all the grooves. You can take a new path down the hill. Ooh, I love that metaphor.
And over time, the grooves get deeper and deeper and you can't go down the hill without falling into one of those grooves. The psychedelics are like a fresh snowfall that fills all the grooves. You can take a new path down the hill. Ooh, I love that metaphor.
And over time, the grooves get deeper and deeper and you can't go down the hill without falling into one of those grooves. The psychedelics are like a fresh snowfall that fills all the grooves. You can take a new path down the hill. Ooh, I love that metaphor.
It is a wonderful question. And there's a lot of kind of suspicion and hostility among scientists and medical professionals at the word spiritual. Yet you can make a case that many things we call mental disorders are spiritual diseases. I mean, addiction is a spiritual disease. And what is at the root of a lot of these disorders is a lack of connection.
It is a wonderful question. And there's a lot of kind of suspicion and hostility among scientists and medical professionals at the word spiritual. Yet you can make a case that many things we call mental disorders are spiritual diseases. I mean, addiction is a spiritual disease. And what is at the root of a lot of these disorders is a lack of connection.
It is a wonderful question. And there's a lot of kind of suspicion and hostility among scientists and medical professionals at the word spiritual. Yet you can make a case that many things we call mental disorders are spiritual diseases. I mean, addiction is a spiritual disease. And what is at the root of a lot of these disorders is a lack of connection.
a sense of isolation, separation, you know, you're encased in your ego. And so I think we have to educate medical professionals that spiritual approaches have medical value. And that's not the way they think.
a sense of isolation, separation, you know, you're encased in your ego. And so I think we have to educate medical professionals that spiritual approaches have medical value. And that's not the way they think.
a sense of isolation, separation, you know, you're encased in your ego. And so I think we have to educate medical professionals that spiritual approaches have medical value. And that's not the way they think.
And there's one other difficulty about incorporating this in our medical system. And that is that, Psychedelic therapy is not just about taking a psychedelic. It really should be called and often is psychedelic assisted psychotherapy because the support of the guide or the therapist is critical to its success. And the FDA, which regulates drugs in our country, only regulates drugs.
And there's one other difficulty about incorporating this in our medical system. And that is that, Psychedelic therapy is not just about taking a psychedelic. It really should be called and often is psychedelic assisted psychotherapy because the support of the guide or the therapist is critical to its success. And the FDA, which regulates drugs in our country, only regulates drugs.
And there's one other difficulty about incorporating this in our medical system. And that is that, Psychedelic therapy is not just about taking a psychedelic. It really should be called and often is psychedelic assisted psychotherapy because the support of the guide or the therapist is critical to its success. And the FDA, which regulates drugs in our country, only regulates drugs.
They don't regulate therapy. So how are they going to deal with this thing? It's a square peg in a round hole. And that's going to be a challenge. I think we can work through it.
They don't regulate therapy. So how are they going to deal with this thing? It's a square peg in a round hole. And that's going to be a challenge. I think we can work through it.
They don't regulate therapy. So how are they going to deal with this thing? It's a square peg in a round hole. And that's going to be a challenge. I think we can work through it.
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're gonna use a high dose of psychedelics, you need to use a guide. I mean, people can take a couple of mushrooms and wander in the woods and they'll be fine. But at a high dose, there are risks. I mean, we should be realistic about it. Some people do have serious psychological problems. bad trips that last a very long time, guides can help you work through that.
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're gonna use a high dose of psychedelics, you need to use a guide. I mean, people can take a couple of mushrooms and wander in the woods and they'll be fine. But at a high dose, there are risks. I mean, we should be realistic about it. Some people do have serious psychological problems. bad trips that last a very long time, guides can help you work through that.
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're gonna use a high dose of psychedelics, you need to use a guide. I mean, people can take a couple of mushrooms and wander in the woods and they'll be fine. But at a high dose, there are risks. I mean, we should be realistic about it. Some people do have serious psychological problems. bad trips that last a very long time, guides can help you work through that.
They give you very specific advice when things get very dark, because I think we should not underplay the fact that these experiences can be very challenging. And that can be productive. But in the process, you can encounter demons.
They give you very specific advice when things get very dark, because I think we should not underplay the fact that these experiences can be very challenging. And that can be productive. But in the process, you can encounter demons.