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Michael Saylor

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1883 total appearances

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Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So a lot of times people think they don't really understand the math that well.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

If Bitcoin goes up 2%, we've got a $50 billion equity tower.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

That means we're making a billion a year.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

That's the dividends.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So the breakeven point for us is 2%.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So if you don't think Bitcoin's going up 2%, you probably shouldn't be an equity investor in a Bitcoin company, right?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So there's no equity investor that thinks Bitcoin isn't going up 2%, right?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

But if it goes up 2%, we can pay the dividends forever and create shareholder value.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

If it goes up 10% a year, well, 10 or 11, maybe a little bit less because the math is kind of complicated.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

We get the benefit of the float.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

But if you expect Bitcoin to go up 10% over the next decade, it's a screaming home run for the equity investors.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

If you think Bitcoin's going up 0% a year for 100 years, well, in like 55 years, we have to do something.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

I mean, like we do things faster, right?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Like you think I'm going to sit around for 55 years and not do something?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Look at all the things we've done in the past five years, right?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So at the end of the day, if you wanted to acquire Bitcoin with leverage,

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Okay, the least risky way to do it is you sell common equity at a premium to the underlying NAV of the company.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So if the equity is trading at two times NAV, you sell a billion dollars of equity, you buy a billion of Bitcoin backed by 500 million of NAV, you just captured a $500 million gain upfront and it is risk-free forever, okay?

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

That is the lowest risk way.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

And we did a lot of that, right?