Michael Shellenberger

It's a healthy response, by the way. Absolutely it is. Absolutely it is. Those are the people that end up getting off the street. You raise the bottom instead of lowering the bottom.

It's a healthy response, by the way. Absolutely it is. Absolutely it is. Those are the people that end up getting off the street. You raise the bottom instead of lowering the bottom.

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Well, there's 88 cities and there's 29 fire departments in counting the county. No, no, that's fine. But, yeah, so like literally like once the fire starts, I didn't even understand this until I started investigating it. The county fire chief has to call all these cities and be like, hey, can you send a couple of trucks? We're putting together a strike team.

Well, there's 88 cities and there's 29 fire departments in counting the county. No, no, that's fine. But, yeah, so like literally like once the fire starts, I didn't even understand this until I started investigating it. The county fire chief has to call all these cities and be like, hey, can you send a couple of trucks? We're putting together a strike team.

Well, there's 88 cities and there's 29 fire departments in counting the county. No, no, that's fine. But, yeah, so like literally like once the fire starts, I didn't even understand this until I started investigating it. The county fire chief has to call all these cities and be like, hey, can you send a couple of trucks? We're putting together a strike team.

You know, can you send some engines or whatever? And they have to call around and they're like, okay, we're all going to meet. The fire's like blazing away. And they're like, okay, well, we're all going to meet, you know, wherever, you know, Sepulveda or whatever the streets are in LA. You know, we'll meet in this place and we'll all get together and we'll sync the radios and we'll develop a plan.

You know, can you send some engines or whatever? And they have to call around and they're like, okay, we're all going to meet. The fire's like blazing away. And they're like, okay, well, we're all going to meet, you know, wherever, you know, Sepulveda or whatever the streets are in LA. You know, we'll meet in this place and we'll all get together and we'll sync the radios and we'll develop a plan.

You know, can you send some engines or whatever? And they have to call around and they're like, okay, we're all going to meet. The fire's like blazing away. And they're like, okay, well, we're all going to meet, you know, wherever, you know, Sepulveda or whatever the streets are in LA. You know, we'll meet in this place and we'll all get together and we'll sync the radios and we'll develop a plan.

I mean, this is all happening like while the city's burning. I mean, it's madness, right? The other thing is that it's, I mean, there's like- So they didn't have any preparation for this?

I mean, this is all happening like while the city's burning. I mean, it's madness, right? The other thing is that it's, I mean, there's like- So they didn't have any preparation for this?

I mean, this is all happening like while the city's burning. I mean, it's madness, right? The other thing is that it's, I mean, there's like- So they didn't have any preparation for this?

I mean, there might've been something that we, but obviously if there was, it wasn't enough. I mean, it's a little bit like when they go, when the people that are like, when the nihilists are defending what happened, they're like, well, there was nothing else we could have done or we did everything we could have. It's like, well, no, obviously you didn't. Like, it doesn't matter what it is.

I mean, there might've been something that we, but obviously if there was, it wasn't enough. I mean, it's a little bit like when they go, when the people that are like, when the nihilists are defending what happened, they're like, well, there was nothing else we could have done or we did everything we could have. It's like, well, no, obviously you didn't. Like, it doesn't matter what it is.

I mean, there might've been something that we, but obviously if there was, it wasn't enough. I mean, it's a little bit like when they go, when the people that are like, when the nihilists are defending what happened, they're like, well, there was nothing else we could have done or we did everything we could have. It's like, well, no, obviously you didn't. Like, it doesn't matter what it is.

It obviously was, there's only one right answer, which is that you didn't do enough. You know, the fatalism is, You know, it's a way to disavow responsibility on the one hand. Again, I think it expresses that nihilism. But I think it's like people just have been out of practice. But you have to – this is part of the journalism too.

It obviously was, there's only one right answer, which is that you didn't do enough. You know, the fatalism is, You know, it's a way to disavow responsibility on the one hand. Again, I think it expresses that nihilism. But I think it's like people just have been out of practice. But you have to – this is part of the journalism too.

It obviously was, there's only one right answer, which is that you didn't do enough. You know, the fatalism is, You know, it's a way to disavow responsibility on the one hand. Again, I think it expresses that nihilism. But I think it's like people just have been out of practice. But you have to – this is part of the journalism too.