Michael Shellenberger

They just were like, fine, if you're gonna play that, you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And the stupid prize they got was that they got shut down, including pulling back all of their people. And I only mentioned it to say, What you're seeing them bringing into government, which none of us could have imagined, is first of all, this awareness that you can't really reform institutions.

They just were like, fine, if you're gonna play that, you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And the stupid prize they got was that they got shut down, including pulling back all of their people. And I only mentioned it to say, What you're seeing them bringing into government, which none of us could have imagined, is first of all, this awareness that you can't really reform institutions.

They just were like, fine, if you're gonna play that, you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And the stupid prize they got was that they got shut down, including pulling back all of their people. And I only mentioned it to say, What you're seeing them bringing into government, which none of us could have imagined, is first of all, this awareness that you can't really reform institutions.

People talk about that, but really you have to just shut them down and build something fresh. That's the only way you can get the old guard out and you have to have new leadership and a new constitution or a new set of rules. but also that you don't really know what's going on until you move fast and break things.

People talk about that, but really you have to just shut them down and build something fresh. That's the only way you can get the old guard out and you have to have new leadership and a new constitution or a new set of rules. but also that you don't really know what's going on until you move fast and break things.

People talk about that, but really you have to just shut them down and build something fresh. That's the only way you can get the old guard out and you have to have new leadership and a new constitution or a new set of rules. but also that you don't really know what's going on until you move fast and break things.

And so like, this is something that I experienced too, which is like, you just have to go out there and sort of do things in the world to figure out what is the federal government You sort of think you know what the federal government is because we have lists of agencies and employees and whatever. But we saw with the U.S. Agency for International Development, we didn't know what they were doing.

And so like, this is something that I experienced too, which is like, you just have to go out there and sort of do things in the world to figure out what is the federal government You sort of think you know what the federal government is because we have lists of agencies and employees and whatever. But we saw with the U.S. Agency for International Development, we didn't know what they were doing.

And so like, this is something that I experienced too, which is like, you just have to go out there and sort of do things in the world to figure out what is the federal government You sort of think you know what the federal government is because we have lists of agencies and employees and whatever. But we saw with the U.S. Agency for International Development, we didn't know what they were doing.

And what we discovered is that they were part of the blowback of U.S. counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, counterpopulism that was – pushed abroad with the Arab Spring and then the color revolutions in Eastern Europe and came back.

And what we discovered is that they were part of the blowback of U.S. counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, counterpopulism that was – pushed abroad with the Arab Spring and then the color revolutions in Eastern Europe and came back.

And what we discovered is that they were part of the blowback of U.S. counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, counterpopulism that was – pushed abroad with the Arab Spring and then the color revolutions in Eastern Europe and came back.

And that those characters that led the censorship, disinformation, lawfare, and other dirty tricks that they used for regime change abroad brought those tactics and strategies to the United States and weaponized them against Trump, MAGA, Republicans. And again, you play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and that's what they got.

And that those characters that led the censorship, disinformation, lawfare, and other dirty tricks that they used for regime change abroad brought those tactics and strategies to the United States and weaponized them against Trump, MAGA, Republicans. And again, you play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and that's what they got.

And that those characters that led the censorship, disinformation, lawfare, and other dirty tricks that they used for regime change abroad brought those tactics and strategies to the United States and weaponized them against Trump, MAGA, Republicans. And again, you play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and that's what they got.

And so when they broke open AID, suddenly it was available for all of us to see. And there's been some very good research and scholarship by some of our allies on what was going on there and making sense of it. And so we've been in a process of sense-making as a country for about whatever it's been, a week, a week and a half, about what exactly is this agency doing wrong?

And so when they broke open AID, suddenly it was available for all of us to see. And there's been some very good research and scholarship by some of our allies on what was going on there and making sense of it. And so we've been in a process of sense-making as a country for about whatever it's been, a week, a week and a half, about what exactly is this agency doing wrong?

And so when they broke open AID, suddenly it was available for all of us to see. And there's been some very good research and scholarship by some of our allies on what was going on there and making sense of it. And so we've been in a process of sense-making as a country for about whatever it's been, a week, a week and a half, about what exactly is this agency doing wrong?

How did it become so deranged that it would use the weapons of regime change against our own democratically elected president from 2016 to 2020, including, you know, many of us suspect but can't yet prove in January 6th? How did that happen? And then the subsequent question is, what do we do now?

How did it become so deranged that it would use the weapons of regime change against our own democratically elected president from 2016 to 2020, including, you know, many of us suspect but can't yet prove in January 6th? How did that happen? And then the subsequent question is, what do we do now?