Michael Shellenberger

And I think we're going to find out a lot more about January 6th as well as a kind of construction rather than something organic. A clear decision was made at a minimum to not provide adequate security. We know that for sure because the Capitol Police chief has has written a whole book on it. And so you look at that series of events and you also look at what the U.S.

And I think we're going to find out a lot more about January 6th as well as a kind of construction rather than something organic. A clear decision was made at a minimum to not provide adequate security. We know that for sure because the Capitol Police chief has has written a whole book on it. And so you look at that series of events and you also look at what the U.S.

security state had done in places like Brazil and the Philippines and other parts of the world. And of course, this goes back decades.

security state had done in places like Brazil and the Philippines and other parts of the world. And of course, this goes back decades.

security state had done in places like Brazil and the Philippines and other parts of the world. And of course, this goes back decades.

And it's a clear counter-populist effort run by these deep state organizations, run by people who had lost their minds, you know, who have all the rational abilities, but they had lost, they had Trump derangement syndrome and turned their enormous powers, their incredible psychological, sociological, political, technological powers against their own people to undermine democracy and attack free speech.

And it's a clear counter-populist effort run by these deep state organizations, run by people who had lost their minds, you know, who have all the rational abilities, but they had lost, they had Trump derangement syndrome and turned their enormous powers, their incredible psychological, sociological, political, technological powers against their own people to undermine democracy and attack free speech.

And it's a clear counter-populist effort run by these deep state organizations, run by people who had lost their minds, you know, who have all the rational abilities, but they had lost, they had Trump derangement syndrome and turned their enormous powers, their incredible psychological, sociological, political, technological powers against their own people to undermine democracy and attack free speech.

And gentlemen. Yeah.

And gentlemen. Yeah.

And gentlemen. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think we're—this really—I mean, this is why I was so excited to talk to you, Jordan, because I think—well, we talked last time also about narcissism and nihilism and— I think since it's almost been a year and we've been working on our book still that gets at these issues, I think we have a better picture of what's happened.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think we're—this really—I mean, this is why I was so excited to talk to you, Jordan, because I think—well, we talked last time also about narcissism and nihilism and— I think since it's almost been a year and we've been working on our book still that gets at these issues, I think we have a better picture of what's happened.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think we're—this really—I mean, this is why I was so excited to talk to you, Jordan, because I think—well, we talked last time also about narcissism and nihilism and— I think since it's almost been a year and we've been working on our book still that gets at these issues, I think we have a better picture of what's happened.

And you – first of all, when you have your liberal democratic civilization with respect for human dignity and human equality and free speech threatened, you get more grounded. I mean I've been –

And you – first of all, when you have your liberal democratic civilization with respect for human dignity and human equality and free speech threatened, you get more grounded. I mean I've been –

And you – first of all, when you have your liberal democratic civilization with respect for human dignity and human equality and free speech threatened, you get more grounded. I mean I've been –

I was concerned around the ways in which the most civilized people, the elites, have been undermining civilization since really my first and second book, both on the environment and homelessness, undermining, for example, the security of a city, making cities dangerous again. We just saw in Los Angeles, I've been writing about defunding the police for years.

I was concerned around the ways in which the most civilized people, the elites, have been undermining civilization since really my first and second book, both on the environment and homelessness, undermining, for example, the security of a city, making cities dangerous again. We just saw in Los Angeles, I've been writing about defunding the police for years.

I was concerned around the ways in which the most civilized people, the elites, have been undermining civilization since really my first and second book, both on the environment and homelessness, undermining, for example, the security of a city, making cities dangerous again. We just saw in Los Angeles, I've been writing about defunding the police for years.