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Michael Shellenberger

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

We just learned in Los Angeles that they had been defunding the fire department. That's how far the degradation of civilization had gone. And I knew as soon as it happened that there would be voices right away who would say that there was nothing that could have been done about it because humans were doomed by climate change. How could we possibly protect ourselves from a fire?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

We just learned in Los Angeles that they had been defunding the fire department. That's how far the degradation of civilization had gone. And I knew as soon as it happened that there would be voices right away who would say that there was nothing that could have been done about it because humans were doomed by climate change. How could we possibly protect ourselves from a fire?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

We just learned in Los Angeles that they had been defunding the fire department. That's how far the degradation of civilization had gone. And I knew as soon as it happened that there would be voices right away who would say that there was nothing that could have been done about it because humans were doomed by climate change. How could we possibly protect ourselves from a fire?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

I mean, who could ever imagine there being fires in the most fiery part of the United States, right? Like, I mean, it's insane. But I think we have a better picture now, Jordan, too, where, you know, you get this really precious, I mean, just this tiny moment of this thing we call the Enlightenment.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

I mean, who could ever imagine there being fires in the most fiery part of the United States, right? Like, I mean, it's insane. But I think we have a better picture now, Jordan, too, where, you know, you get this really precious, I mean, just this tiny moment of this thing we call the Enlightenment.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

I mean, who could ever imagine there being fires in the most fiery part of the United States, right? Like, I mean, it's insane. But I think we have a better picture now, Jordan, too, where, you know, you get this really precious, I mean, just this tiny moment of this thing we call the Enlightenment.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Of course, it comes out of 1,500 years of Christianity, but we get this period, really, 17th century, 18th century, really, 18th century, right? Where there have been all these wars and everyone's, you know, Hobbes and everybody's tired of them. And they're like, we have to have order. You have to have civilization.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Of course, it comes out of 1,500 years of Christianity, but we get this period, really, 17th century, 18th century, really, 18th century, right? Where there have been all these wars and everyone's, you know, Hobbes and everybody's tired of them. And they're like, we have to have order. You have to have civilization.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Of course, it comes out of 1,500 years of Christianity, but we get this period, really, 17th century, 18th century, really, 18th century, right? Where there have been all these wars and everyone's, you know, Hobbes and everybody's tired of them. And they're like, we have to have order. You have to have civilization.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Then Locke comes in and amends that and says, you also have to protect the citizenry from each other. But you have still a picture of what it means to be a citizen, right? And it is tied to this idea of being a gentleman. And we're also trying to teach this at University of Austin.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Then Locke comes in and amends that and says, you also have to protect the citizenry from each other. But you have still a picture of what it means to be a citizen, right? And it is tied to this idea of being a gentleman. And we're also trying to teach this at University of Austin.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Then Locke comes in and amends that and says, you also have to protect the citizenry from each other. But you have still a picture of what it means to be a citizen, right? And it is tied to this idea of being a gentleman. And we're also trying to teach this at University of Austin.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

But it's a picture that a citizen, it's not just something, yes, you're a citizen by fact of being born in that nation. Yes, but there is this older idea of the citizen, which came from older Europe. Which was that to be a citizen was something that was a privilege and an honor, and it came with some intense responsibilities. And you're in service. So you sort of say, what is it?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

But it's a picture that a citizen, it's not just something, yes, you're a citizen by fact of being born in that nation. Yes, but there is this older idea of the citizen, which came from older Europe. Which was that to be a citizen was something that was a privilege and an honor, and it came with some intense responsibilities. And you're in service. So you sort of say, what is it?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

But it's a picture that a citizen, it's not just something, yes, you're a citizen by fact of being born in that nation. Yes, but there is this older idea of the citizen, which came from older Europe. Which was that to be a citizen was something that was a privilege and an honor, and it came with some intense responsibilities. And you're in service. So you sort of say, what is it?

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

The gentleman is in service of civilization, of peace, of prosperity, of freedom, of reproduction, continuing the civilization, continuing. There's a picture of an evolution of human consciousness here.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

The gentleman is in service of civilization, of peace, of prosperity, of freedom, of reproduction, continuing the civilization, continuing. There's a picture of an evolution of human consciousness here.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

The gentleman is in service of civilization, of peace, of prosperity, of freedom, of reproduction, continuing the civilization, continuing. There's a picture of an evolution of human consciousness here.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

As we've talked about before, that gets into trouble when the stories that Christians had told start to get challenged by Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin, we get to the crisis of meaning, we get to nihilism, the death of God. We had two first bad waves of a totalitarian nihilistic response to the death of God in fascism and communism.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

As we've talked about before, that gets into trouble when the stories that Christians had told start to get challenged by Copernicus, Galileo, Darwin, we get to the crisis of meaning, we get to nihilism, the death of God. We had two first bad waves of a totalitarian nihilistic response to the death of God in fascism and communism.