Michael Shermer

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4,120 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 9 Jul

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American Alchemy with Jesse Michels · I Debated UFOs With America’s Top Skeptic (It Got Ugly…) · 9 Jul 2026 podcast

Everybody sees it.

It's covered in the news.

The president, the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, everybody goes, yeah, it's real.

Now, I didn't personally see it, you know, but I accept that that's real.

And no one cares about the credentials of the pilot that shot it down or anything like that.

We have the balloon.

So if we had the aliens.

Okay, that would do it.

You know, Avi would go, yeah, that's it.

Schirmer, look, here it is.

And NASA said it's real.

You know, he gets the money, right?

I mean, the money all goes to the Galileo project anyway, because I support it.

But so it's just a way of focusing our attention on what constitutes good evidence and not good evidence.

What would it take to go from here?

I doubt it to here.

I think it's probably true.

Well, that so I would I would ask that for you.

Like what constitutes the threshold of evidence after which you are ready to say this is a real phenomenon and that humans.

Or prosaic explanations aren't responsible for it, because I think we have an abundance of evidence in the open source world that that would you know, I believe that I believe that now.

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