Michael Shermer

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4,120 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 9 Jul

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American Alchemy with Jesse Michels · I Debated UFOs With America’s Top Skeptic (It Got Ugly…) · 9 Jul 2026 podcast

But you get what I'm saying.

The public would freak out.

You would never want to.

I don't think the public would.

OK.

You don't mean like if we discovered aliens, the stock market would crash and religion.

No, no, no.

I don't mean that.

I mean, if you're Obama and you find out that all we actually know about this stuff is, yeah, maybe some material was dropped.

Maybe we have some remnants of actual physical evidence.

But like ultimately, one of the core truths about it is that these things are flying and

you know, with complete impunity around our most sensitive defense assets.

So what's the what's the criteria cut off to tip over on that particular issue of because power goes out at stations all the time, this happens.

So maybe the power just went out for some other reason at the Maelstrom site and it wasn't these orbs or whatever.

So how many does it have to happen?

And we go, OK, this is not just some random electricity occasionally goes out and shuts off the nukes.

It was something else.

The reason I think that it was actually UFO related is there is a Boeing strategic air command report where they actually looked and they tried to recreate the effect.

And this is on the Echo flight incident.

So this was eight days before the Salas incident, just to be clear.

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