Michael Shermer

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4,120 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 9 Jul

Michael Shermer’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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He was on ARPANET, the first version of the Internet with Doug Engelbart.

And in the 60s, he was also an astronomer, you know, and so he's a real kind of, you know, scientific credentials.

And he talks about the phenomena in this really interesting way where you can't take it at face value.

You know, you have this phenomenological experience, but that is sort of the mask.

And behind the mask is something else sort of going on.

And then, yeah, at other times he sort of debunks, you know, he doesn't believe the Lazar case.

I happen to disagree with him.

You know, on that specifically.

But he's he's a very interesting sort of deep, deep thing.

Well, the collection of stories and anecdotes that they're not enough for belief, but or to tip over into accepting it as viable.

But it is a direction of which to go.

Like, what are these people experiencing?

What are they seeing?

It's like alien abduction people.

I've met a lot of these people, and I don't think they're making it up.

I don't think these are fraudsters or anything like that.

And they're not mentally ill people also.

There was Susan Clancy at Harvard for a doctoral dissertation in psychology.

She wrote a book on abducted, and she did a study on people who had been abducted by aliens.

They're not abnormal people.

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