Michael Tracey

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1,212 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 20 Feb

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Epstein Files Special: Prince Andrew Arrested, Global Network, Mythology, Reid Hoffman Files · 20 Feb 2026 podcast

So it's not like I'm trying to avoid anything or be at all evasive, right?

So people ask me all the time, okay, how did he make his money?

What about Leslie Wexner, et cetera, et cetera.

So it's not like I'm unaccustomed to addressing any of this stuff.

It's just that I feel like there's a bit of a fallacy or a logical flaw in attempting to say that it's incumbent on me to proffer some kind of ultimate totalizing theory.

I have a theory I could sketch out that maybe explains some of what people would like to know that people are so titillated by.

But I think, again, one of the reasons why the coverage of the story has been so horribly bad is that

speculation has replaced fact.

And we have this whole mythology or folklore that's developed and that people just kind of ambiently absorb.

And then they end up just believing things that are totally false.

So for example, people just believe, and I'm sure that you've seen this, that Epstein must have referred to his private plane as the Lolita Express.

Therefore, anybody who was ever on the plane must have known that this was like a child sex trafficking

Plain, because why else would it be named the Lolita Express after the famous book about a 12-year-old girl or whatever who was a sexual object?

That's just like false.

I mean, there's never been any evidence for that.

It was a nickname that was invented, it was a cheeky nickname invented by this British tabloid.

Not quite.

So...

I mean, there was a huge New York Times article that was one of the few helpful contributions to the popular knowledge around Jeffrey Epstein recently in December, where they basically set out to answer the question that everybody always asks with a wink and a nod, as though they think that the asking of the question is supposed to prove that the answer would be fundamentally sinister, meaning how did Jeffrey Epstein make his money?

Because the idea is that he must have made his money

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