Michael Tracey

She initially filed some civil litigation around, I want to say, 2009, 2010, maybe 2008, as a Jane Doe.

She initially filed some civil litigation around, I want to say, 2009, 2010, maybe 2008, as a Jane Doe.

Maybe 2011, somewhere in that range.

Maybe 2011, somewhere in that range.

First as a Jane Doe, meaning she wasn't named in the litigation.

First as a Jane Doe, meaning she wasn't named in the litigation.

And this related to a period of around...

And this related to a period of around...

2001, 2002, when she was in the Epstein orbit to some extent.

2001, 2002, when she was in the Epstein orbit to some extent.

And there's evidence that she was in the Epstein orbit to some extent.

And there's evidence that she was in the Epstein orbit to some extent.

She's not hallucinating everything.

She's not hallucinating everything.

I've argued that she's not so much a liar, I wouldn't say.

I've argued that she's not so much a liar, I wouldn't say.

I've never directly accused her of lying about anything as such.

I've never directly accused her of lying about anything as such.

I've said that she's kind of confabulated an alternate reality, and that's a little bit different because it doesn't necessarily connote willful deceits, and it's almost even more disturbing if you think about it.

I've said that she's kind of confabulated an alternate reality, and that's a little bit different because it doesn't necessarily connote willful deceits, and it's almost even more disturbing if you think about it.