Michael Wolff

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Yes.

There, there were always, um, uh, uh, uh, a set of young, uh,

women, and I mean young women, they would clearly have been in their 20s, you know, possibly even late 20s.

That's old for him, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if he... Yes, yeah, no, who were there as assistants and, you know, basically assistants.

Well, no, they did.

They made his appointments and they... Oh, assistants, like assistants, or do you think they were assisting?

No, no, they were assistants, like they were the receptionist, they were the this, they would come in, they would bring him messages.

Yes, they did.

They did all of that.

I mean, I always equated them, you know, if you live in New York, where I've lived for a long time, you know, there are high-end art galleries in which there are always clearly young women who are the receptionists and who are there to kind of...

guide you, give you information, and they all are clearly chosen because of their poise and the way they present.

And that's what these women in Epstein's house – and I think they were different from the women, you know, the massage women in Palm Beach and then the set of Eastern European models that you would occasionally see –

I think that this was part of this carefully orchestrated ecosystem of women around Jeffrey Epstein.

No, I don't think Barack Obama knows Epstein.

Yeah, no, and I think that that's a—I mean, I think Gates and Epstein were actually quite close.