Mike Delaney
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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It automatically populates the iPhone. So you have folks actively working around your protections.
Yeah, especially on production floor. If you have biometrics and you're wearing goggles, it doesn't work. Or fingerprints, you're wearing gloves. There's cold and you can't get the heat. Yeah, or it's just cold. Or you're in some type of toxic environment where you can't do that. No, it's hard. This is why you have to work with people and process. And the tech has to work around that.
Back in the day, the legacy systems worked because that's all there was. And they stayed there because it was too expensive to upgrade the system or upgrade the software that runs on it. Some of the software upgrades, For when we were doing that whole process of the ERP upgrade, some of those were literally millions of dollars, Mike. It was stupid. What's the point?
That was the whole budget we have for the project anyways. Like, why would we do this? But it was the most critical system that couldn't be taken offline. Or people have been attaching their legacy systems to their current modern systems, whether it's an IoT or anything like that. I don't think that you need to give everybody access to everything. That's ridiculous.
That's kind of the breakdown, too, of access control.
Every type of precaution possible down to the point of thinking like, you know, it's like you both have to have two keys to turn the nuclear war.
Exactly. Yes, exactly.
Can't turn both at the same time because they're too far apart.
You know, and that's the important with aspects with like cyber physical, right? You still have to be able to turn the key, but you could push a button on your couch, right? That whole aspect, we now cross into physical security so much differently in the food industry. Down controlling peanut to non-peanut areas is an example to go back to that.
And I think that access control in that regard, especially it's part of our process. It should be part of what we do. It's hard. This is all hard stuff. And because you have to combat people, blame to them. You have to change the way you do your job that you've done for the last 40 years.
But we appreciate what you've done for the last 40 years, but now you need to adopt this particular aspect to it. But, oh, by the way, if everything goes down and it's bad, we need to be able to fall back on your original process. It makes people feel really inadequate and stupid. So you have to kind of get them excited about it and bring them to a new level of understanding with it.
And also, they can take it into their home. You know, they can understand how to stay safe at home. And I think that's the part. It's not exclusive to your company. You should be practicing these behaviors at home as well. Because if your email gets hacked at home, more than likely you have the same password. It will be tried on your work account. That's how they get in a lot of times.
So don't put your passwords the same. Change your password. That's right.
But again, back to that human nature of, oh, God, how many more passwords do I have to remember?
I think the nice thing is that a lot of people are adopting password creations and storage and things like that. And that seems to be good. Thanks, Mike, for being here. I was nice to it on memory lane and all these fun things. And I really hope you continue to expand your knowledge so you can share this with others as well.
Definitely something that we're thinking a lot about. Like I mentioned, you know, law firm worlds are, they're seeing attacks constantly as well. The bad people have figured out that we have a lot of information that they'd love to have their hands on. And if they can get something that's about a public deal, that's not public. And then again, in the legal side, meaning the lawmakers.
We're going to see more and more activity at Congress and state levels because this is an issue that they have to address. And unfortunately, we see on both sides of the aisle an interest in doing so. So it'll be interesting to see where they move on this in the next few years. But I suspect that we'll be talking again about whatever legislation they place.
All right. Well, thank you very much for being here, Mike. Really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Kristen.
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