Mike Gibbons

This will sound like a little bit of a stretch and I haven't thought it through.

But it's like TV doesn't understand.

I've been in a bazillion meetings where I'm like, they're like, that would be the worst thing ever.

I'm like, you mean the best publicity ever where people will hear of this show that no one's really gonna hear about otherwise?

Like I've said that my whole life and things.

And it's a little, have you seen the trick where on,

social media, they'll intentionally mispronounce a name or get something wrong because it's a feast in the comments, which generate, there's probably a word for it that I'm unaware of.

Right, well.

Well, the Golden Globes, a little mispronunciation, it would be Ben Shapiro in the fucking audience.

Like, what don't you get about that?

Biohacking, life hacking.

Yeah, life hacking.

Totally.

No, you get that there that you don't get anywhere else.

They are nominated.

Which may, and also, Polar, so they're exes, so ex-husband and wife are in the podcast category against each other.

I do want to ask you about Sebastian and the SNL.

because you have the same management, and I'm wondering how that's played, because he was made fun, he was parodied on SNL, and there could be a bunch of different reactions.

And I think he was true to himself and all that, but part of me was like, that could really help him in a way.

Yeah.