Mike McCarthy

And if he wanted to, he could have, but he chose not to.

And I think that's in deference to Aaron Rodgers.

So I didn't think that was as strong as a statement.

So to answer your question, Joe, I think...

It's more 50-50.

I would have had it at maybe 65-35 that he wasn't coming back based on what I thought.

It may be more 50-50 at this point.

Hard.

He really likes Will Howard, yes.

He also said today he likes Mason Rudolph.

He likes them all.

He wants that quarterback room to be the symmetry of it so that there's not a lot of difference, but there is a difference.

Of course, Rodgers can't run like Howard, probably not like Mason, so that's the one glaring difference, especially when you face good pass rushers, but

I mean, he had glowing things to say about Will, no question about it.

And I said, you really haven't watched him?

What makes you say that?

Because you haven't had to deal with him.

And he did mention, you know, the high-level games at Ohio State.

He also talked to people in this organization who had high things to say about him.

So I think it's just what the organization feels about Will Howard, pure and simple.