Mike McCarthy

And I think he's picking up on that for now because he really hasn't had a chance to work with him.

Obviously, you can't run it all because it's too long.

But one of the things I thought was interesting was metrics.

I said, you're an old school guy.

Things have changed.

I see coaches going for every fourth down.

I wanted to know how you view it.

And also, in fourth down and short, is it your gut?

Is it your metrics?

Who's going to be the person?

What are you going to rely on to make those calls?

So, you know, he gave those answers.

And, you know, I think I came away and you can listen for yourself.

He sounds like he's more interested in metrics and AI than I would have thought, you know, because he comes from an area where there wasn't much of that there, but he seems to have really warmed up on it.

The fact that he talked about AI and how he wants to use AI, I thought, man, I didn't expect to hear that out of him.

So that was one of the things.

And also the size of his coaching staff, we get into that, what he's looking for his coaching staff.

And while...

Obviously, you make decisions based on people you've encountered and people you've worked with.

That has a high priority.