Mike Pesca

You seem to be always making content.

So I appreciate that you're helping me make content.

My pleasure.

How many...

How many side hustles do you have?

That's what I used to say about Meet the Press, the longest running television show.

I'm the fastest growing podcast in the 22207 zip code.

I don't know about you, but anyway.

Well, all right.

Well, I have refurbished the second floor.

I need to clean up my second floor.

How do I accomplish my extra side hustle of all of that?

If I thought of one theme I wanted to speak with you about, it is the fact that it's interesting.

I sort of began my calendar year getting started in this world of independent media, going on your podcast early.

You were sort of very –

uh very uh gracious with that but it's been quite a year in media in general especially legacy media and sort of like if you think about where where we began and where we ended um is the information ecosystem at the end of 2025 worse or better than at the start of 2025

Yeah, I've not my I am all for I am sort of rooting for the disruption.

Right.

I you know, I've seen and I I benefited from a disruptor coming into NBC, a woman by the name of Deborah Turness, who I still find to be one of the best network executives I ever worked with because she wasn't afraid.

She wasn't afraid to break things.