Mike Pesca

If Wes Moore is the next president of the United States, do the Ellisons care about the news division anymore?

Right.

You know, because Wes Moore isn't like on top of them, you know, helping them with other business deals.

And in order to get those business deals, they've got to placate the president with with with certain things with the media business, with the with the news side of things.

Right.

And that would be something which is does all of the.

Right now, if I'm Barry, I'm getting some running room.

I get to do a special on Saturday nights, which is the lowest rated portion of network television, which is why a lot of times you will see town halls and special news presentations either on Friday evenings or Saturday evenings because literally those are the two nights that they can't sell ads for.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So that would be my concern, whether there is really an interest in allowing CBS to stay disruptive, CBS News.

Beyond sort of what feels like performance art for the man in the Oval Office.

I mean, that's my point.

But you are the Salzburgers do care about that opinion page.

I mean, who was trying, he couldn't manage his own, you know, you had basically a revolt-

I believe you let the – and this to me has been something I've been obsessed with, which is be careful of the audience you build because you may become captive of your audience.

Right.

Andy Beshear.

And I say this, though, you know, that sounds like a big criticizing.

It may be that America wants boring come 2029.