Mikey Shulman
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Imagine it were just only the free tier or everything were totally free. When you hit the end of your free tier, I don't know why. I don't know if you wanted to continue or didn't want to continue. I don't know how to pick out the users that I want to interview that found this really valuable or not really valuable. Like I'm kind of lost in the desert a little bit.
Imagine it were just only the free tier or everything were totally free. When you hit the end of your free tier, I don't know why. I don't know if you wanted to continue or didn't want to continue. I don't know how to pick out the users that I want to interview that found this really valuable or not really valuable. Like I'm kind of lost in the desert a little bit.
Imagine it were just only the free tier or everything were totally free. When you hit the end of your free tier, I don't know why. I don't know if you wanted to continue or didn't want to continue. I don't know how to pick out the users that I want to interview that found this really valuable or not really valuable. Like I'm kind of lost in the desert a little bit.
And if you have it and you can say, okay, these are the people who subscribed. These are the people who subscribed before they even hit the paywall. Let's go talk to them. Let's figure out like, what was that magical moment they had? Or these were the people that hit the paywall and didn't subscribe. Let's go talk to them. Let's figure out why we didn't wow them.
And if you have it and you can say, okay, these are the people who subscribed. These are the people who subscribed before they even hit the paywall. Let's go talk to them. Let's figure out like, what was that magical moment they had? Or these were the people that hit the paywall and didn't subscribe. Let's go talk to them. Let's figure out why we didn't wow them.
And if you have it and you can say, okay, these are the people who subscribed. These are the people who subscribed before they even hit the paywall. Let's go talk to them. Let's figure out like, what was that magical moment they had? Or these were the people that hit the paywall and didn't subscribe. Let's go talk to them. Let's figure out why we didn't wow them.
Sure, maybe we would be a little bit bigger, but we would also have, I think, a worse product if we hadn't had that data at our hands.
Sure, maybe we would be a little bit bigger, but we would also have, I think, a worse product if we hadn't had that data at our hands.
Sure, maybe we would be a little bit bigger, but we would also have, I think, a worse product if we hadn't had that data at our hands.
It's the biggest thing by far. It's a few times payroll. We also have a big research cluster that these technologies didn't exist when we started the company, and research is still a huge part of what we do. How do you anticipate that changing moving forwards? I don't. I hope GPU prices come down, but we'll probably just get more.
It's the biggest thing by far. It's a few times payroll. We also have a big research cluster that these technologies didn't exist when we started the company, and research is still a huge part of what we do. How do you anticipate that changing moving forwards? I don't. I hope GPU prices come down, but we'll probably just get more.
It's the biggest thing by far. It's a few times payroll. We also have a big research cluster that these technologies didn't exist when we started the company, and research is still a huge part of what we do. How do you anticipate that changing moving forwards? I don't. I hope GPU prices come down, but we'll probably just get more.
No, you know, you need to run high quality experiments. And so the machine learning team at Suno will almost certainly not scale as quickly as a software team. Or said differently, research is not something that you can solve with scale. You can just throw more bodies and you'll get comparatively more results. It will be sublinear returns there.
No, you know, you need to run high quality experiments. And so the machine learning team at Suno will almost certainly not scale as quickly as a software team. Or said differently, research is not something that you can solve with scale. You can just throw more bodies and you'll get comparatively more results. It will be sublinear returns there.
No, you know, you need to run high quality experiments. And so the machine learning team at Suno will almost certainly not scale as quickly as a software team. Or said differently, research is not something that you can solve with scale. You can just throw more bodies and you'll get comparatively more results. It will be sublinear returns there.
And so it's very important to really understand like, okay, I have like really talented researchers doing the problems that are going to be really important for the future of music.
And so it's very important to really understand like, okay, I have like really talented researchers doing the problems that are going to be really important for the future of music.
And so it's very important to really understand like, okay, I have like really talented researchers doing the problems that are going to be really important for the future of music.
I have to be very careful what I say and don't say about a lawsuit. So yeah, we know that there are some copyrighted works in our training data. That's not illegal. It's stock standard for the industry. It's what every AI company does. In some sense, the lawsuit wasn't totally shocking. Most AI companies get sued. Everybody in music gets sued. It's a
I have to be very careful what I say and don't say about a lawsuit. So yeah, we know that there are some copyrighted works in our training data. That's not illegal. It's stock standard for the industry. It's what every AI company does. In some sense, the lawsuit wasn't totally shocking. Most AI companies get sued. Everybody in music gets sued. It's a