Miranda Stain
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah. I mean, Kruger's Door is a relatively small city. It's roughly the population of New Orleans.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah. Now, before the car even burned out, police had arrived on the scene. And because the license plate was thrown from the blaze, the car was immediately identified as belonging to Zach Valentine.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
But what police also immediately noticed was that the car was not on fire as a result of an accident, but had rather been cautiously pushed off the road because there were no indications of a crash like skid marks or broken glass. And cars usually catch on fire because they flipped over.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Do anything. Yeah, it's like that scene of The Simpsons where Hans Mole Man's car goes off the road and it taps a tree and then blows up.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, regardless of all the obvious signs of criminal wrongdoing, the South African police once again gave the situation an old-fashioned, what are you going to do?
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
And they just moved on with their day. As far as Gerard's wife went, Cecilia told her that before Gerard even got in the car with Zach that day, he'd crossed the road to where two Nigerians were sitting in a white car.
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She was told that after a brief conversation, her husband got in with the Nigerians and drove off. Wow. But when Gerard's wife called his mother with this news, Gerard's mother pretty much said, oh, yeah, totally sounds like something Gerard would do. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Everyone's been like, yeah, that's to be expected. So Gerard's wife, completely powerless, just had to accept the story for at least the time being, although she had strong suspicions that something terrible had happened to her husband.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
And I think that this just adds to the pile. Yeah. Meanwhile, a medical examiner had looked over Gerard Jackson's charred corpse and immediately decided that there was no foul play involved, solely because there weren't any bullet wounds or obvious injuries. But... One thing that the doctor was interested in was determining the race of the body.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Because even though it was charred, it still looked a lot like it belonged to a black guy. And Zach Valentine was lily white. Let's check its butt.
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To head off this discovery, Miranda claimed that Zach was her brother and demanded that the body be immediately released to her care so she could cremate it as soon as possible.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
So by either being a huge pain in the ass or most likely by making a couple of well-placed bribes, Miranda was able to get the body released and transferred to a funeral home with the oddly informal name of Martin's Funerals.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
It would be a lot better if it was Crazy Martin's Funerals.
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Come on down to Crazy Martin's Funerals and we'll get you a funeral for half the price of any other funeral home in town.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Once the body was there, Miranda brazenly demanded that the cremation be done as soon as possible so she could finalize paperwork on an insurance claim. She told him straight up, this is what I'm trying to do. The funeral director, however, was a man of protocol and soon saw through Cecilia's lie about being Zach's brother.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, even if he wasn't a man of principle, I'd imagine that the cult spent all their bribe money on the medical examiner. So Cecilia called Zach's parents and told them that their son was dead and she needed them to approve the cremation. All in one conversation.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
So when we last left the members of Electus Perdeus, they had just killed their fifth and sixth victims. But these murders had very little to do with the motivations behind their first four killings, which were committed ostensibly as a righteous act to battle the forces of Satan. The murders of Joan and Peter Meyer, however, their latest victims, were simply the result of a robbery gone wrong.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Amazingly, they agreed.
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And they said they'd come to Martin's funerals the next day to pay for the cremation themselves.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, as far as everyone else in Zach's life went, Electus Perdeus quickly spread the word that Zach had died in a horrible, fiery car accident. In reality, though, Zach was hiding out at the Herberg Hotel, where the cult brought him insulin, food, and smokes. At night, however, he would sneak out to Cecilia's apartment, albeit heavily disguised. My true form.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Later, during the trial for Gerard Jackson's murder, Zach would try to flip the whole thing back to Cecilia, saying that he only went along with the life insurance scheme because he was still too distraught over Michaela's death. And he believed that he was doing what he needed to do to protect the rest of his family.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yep. The police, however, were finally doing something, although they were doing it slowly. And when I mean slowly, I mean very, very slowly. See, before Gerard's body could be cremated, an investigator managed to halt the process so they could take a DNA sample.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
The body was transferred back to police custody where a sample was taken, and by June of 2016, they said, they could properly identify the corpse. Oh! Problem was, June was six months away. Jesus Christ. And Electus Perdeus would murder three more people in quick succession before those results came back. Now, as far as the insurance claim went, that was hitting roadblocks as well.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Because while Electus Perdeus had proved themselves to be effective killers, they were terrible criminals.
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At crime.
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That's exactly why they call it organized crime.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, a competent insurance adjuster noticed a lot of red flags surrounding Cecilia's claim. They noted that Zach's policy had been taken out pretty soon before Zach had died, which is, you know, pretty strange for a young guy like Zach Valentine. And the person who was so anxious to get the payout was quite close to the person who was so anxious to cremate the body.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
And that same person had lied about being Zach's relative. Additionally, Cecilia had made a payment on the policy two days before Zach's supposed death
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A robbery did wrong. Yeah. That's what I would put it that way. Did wrong and gone wrong. Yeah.
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Yeah. And so since the payout was held up, and since Zach was now actively costing the cult money, because he can't work if he's in a hotel, they're fucking, they're paying for the hotel, they're paying for smokes, they're paying for food, they're paying for insulin.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Because of all this, Cecilia once again got nervous. And when Cecilia got nervous, people usually died. Now, once the cash reserves ran low, Cecilia returned to her old tricks by once again making herself the focal point of the cult's mission, forgetting about the orphans completely. Oh, yeah, the orphans are gone. Yeah.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Cecilia created a satanic witch named Jane, who was in mortal danger because she had stolen money from the satanic church to give to Cecilia.
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Well, if that money that Jane took and gave to Cecilia, if that wasn't returned, I suppose before the church's satanic accountant noticed it was missing.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
They were wealthy, but they didn't have cash on hand. Yeah. Of course not. No wealthy person has cash on hand.
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Well, if that money wasn't returned, Cecilia said that both she and Jane would be hunted down and killed by Agents of the Devil. Agents of the Devil are some of the most sneaky versions of it.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
So the only way to keep Cecilia safe was to commit more robbery and murder. Now, it had never been the plan to kill Joan and Peter Meyer, but Cecilia convinced the cult that it was actually safer to murder the people they robbed, because then you got no witnesses.
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And since this was all supposedly for the greater good, greater good being save Cecilia, then there was really no crime here in the first place.
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They listened to this man talk about a South African water park for 45 minutes. You know, the here, we'll have is the crocodile area. Yeah.
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And so the cult went back to their newest member, John Barnard, the only real criminal amongst them, so he could choose the next victim. He settled on a tax consultant named Glenn McGregor because Barnard had heard that Glenn was the type of guy who kept all his money in his house because he didn't trust banks.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
And so Cecilia told Miranda to make an appointment with Glenn McGregor under the veil of solving Miranda's tax problem. And I'm just now fucking realizing how stupid it is that the tax guy keeps all of his money at home. How does he pay his taxes? Did he send them a big fucking package of cash?
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Well, advantageously for the cult, McGregor just happened to live on a small isolated farm outside of town. And so on January 27th, 2016, the cult sent out a larger crew than normal, which included John Barnard, Miranda, Marcel, and LaRue. Their X-Force. Yes.
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Well, armed with a .22 revolver, tape, rope, and rubber gloves, Electus Perdeus headed out to Glenn McGregor's farm with the explicit purpose of committing their eighth murder. We're going out to murder.
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Now, after they arrived and chatted with Glenn for about 10 minutes to put him at ease, Miranda pulled out her revolver.
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Well, perhaps not knowing what else to do, because I guess they did put him in ease. Glenn started laughing.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah.
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All this shit. Whole time.
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Yeah, there's no school teachers on meth out there.
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I've never done drugs with teachers before. Well, once Glenn realized that this was serious, he tried lunging for LaRue. But as soon as Glenn moved, Marinda shot him three times. Damn! Twice in the stomach and once in the side. Glenn then fell to the ground where he was tied up by Marcel.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Did y'all watch the Last of Us TV show?
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah. You remember that? I remember the gays kissing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was beautiful. But remember the episode where they get to this town and the woman in charge of everything is a fucking demon. And then you find out that before all this, she was just a regular fucking person. Yeah. That's who Miranda is. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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And really, that does make sense because Cecilia has created an environment in which Miranda does believe that everyone's trying to kill her. Everything is dangerous. There's Satanists everywhere. So she creates these conditions for people to turn.
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No, I don't feel sorry for her in any way whatsoever for being brainwashed because it means she's a fucking moron.
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Yep. Well, immediately, the crew ransacked the house looking for money and valuables, but again, found nothing. Turns out he was a tax consultant and he did actually keep his money in a bank.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, eventually, they did find... Yeah, imagine him being like, where's the money?
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You came to me for advice. Eventually, they did find a locked cabinet. Pay dirt at last. But we're disappointed to find... Oh, it's just child pornography. Well, it wasn't child pornography. It was just pornography. It was Glenn's pornography collection.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, after that, Miranda asked Glenn again where his money was. But after being told, ain't no money in the house, Miranda told Glenn that she'd call someone to help with his wounds if he gave her his PIN number.
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See, the leader of Electus Perdeus, Cecilia Stane, had commanded her cult to somehow find money for the fictitious American orphans that had become the focal point of the group. But this was only after the group had been quiet for two years.
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He complied, and Miranda, through a banking app, transferred $345 to her personal account, writing the phrase, excellent fuck, in the transaction comment to make it look like he'd paid her for an excellent fuck. That's all the porno that got her excited. No. Give her the idea.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
But as soon as that was done, Miranda gave a signal to LaRue. It was this one. Yeah. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. And LaRue had apparently inherited a taste for murder from his mother. What gives me this feeling is that after the murder of Gerard Jackson, remember, he strangled him from the backseat of the car. LaRue actually gave a name to his strangling rope. He called it his Chokey Chokey.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
He used the same rope? Every time. Yeah. Get a new rope. It's everywhere. It's his choky choky. It's his choky choky. That's the thing. He gained a sort of attachment to his murder weapon.
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Yeah. Well, using the Chokey Chokey, LaRue strangled Glenn to death. The only thing I have like that is my, I have one can opener or one bottle opener, my Popener. It's a Pope, John Paul II. I got it from my friend Joe Garden, our friend Joe Garden.
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Yeah. that's the popener. I still have it to this day and I refuse to use anything else to open a bottle in my home. Why would you? Because that's it and it does its function.
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That's the key for it to be one of those objects. But that's the thing is that the Chokey Chokey actually did a very good job because it never failed to Chokey Chokey someone to death.
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Yeah. We're using the Chokey Chokey. LaRue's strangled glass. I'm sorry, I just couldn't think of anything. No, no, it's Chokey Chokey. While using the Chokey Chokey, LaRue strangled Glenn to death, then helped his sister drag Glenn's body to the bathtub.
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Again, they believed that by putting the body in water, it would make the time of death harder to pinpoint, while also washing away their fingerprints. Wrong! The cult then left Glenn's body to be found the next day.
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Well, that's one of many ways to check someone's time of death. You just lick it.
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Don't worry, the medical examiners know all. Now, since the take was again quite small, Zach, the cult's new financial burden, was moved to a small farm that cost much less than the hotel. This guy's living the dream. Well, there he again used the name James Vermoch to take another run at the stock market. Again, he failed. He's very bad at it. You got to read the trades. You know what I mean?
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Yep. Yeah. And the thing is, I don't think Zach's living the life because all he's eating is instant ramen because that's the most the cult could afford because they still had to satisfy Cecilia's every financial demand.
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Yeah. I mean, after a while, the farm got to be too lonely. So Zach returned to the Herberg Hotel in Kruger's Dorp. Now, as it turned out, Zach's sacrifice had been all for naught because on February 9th, 2016, the suspicious claims adjuster not only denied the payout, but also opened an investigation.
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The adjuster, however, a bulldog named Shane Chatzkelowitz, did not call the police and instead took on the burden of investigation himself. The true knights of justice, the insurance adjusters. It's true. During an interview at Cecilia's apartment in which he grilled both Cecilia and LaRue, Shane noticed that Cecilia dressed in an oversized track suit and a hat pulled low over her eyes.
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He noticed that she giggled and cracked jokes with whoever happened to be in the room.
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Which ties into the Satanist thing.
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Yeah. Well, Shane, of course, came to the immediate conclusion that anything that came out of Cecilia's mouth was a lie. To test this, Shane asked Cecilia questions that he already knew the answers to, just to see what sort of bizarre story Cecilia would tell. When asked about Michaela Valentine's death, Cecilia said that it was two Zimbabweans.
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Anybody. But she said that they'd been deported instead of being charged with murder. Everyone knew that. Yeah. Not true. When asked about the supposed death of Zach Valentine, Cecilia said that his wedding ring and medical paperwork had been in the car with him, which they weren't. And she'd claimed that the car had flipped during the accident, which is why it had caught on fire, which it hadn't.
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Adidas ring, not wedding ring.
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Yeah. Well, I think that Cecilia was so used to having her lies immediately accepted by the members of her cult that she thought that she could say anything to anyone and they would believe her because she was just that good. Or she may have also completely lost her grip on reality.
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Yeah, and I think Cecilia, like one of the things I realized over the last couple of days thinking about this is that Cecilia's cycle at this point in time is that it kind of mirrors what you see with serial killers, right? Is that she is, even though she is not committing any murders herself, she's still getting a charge every time someone is killed.
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Every time she convinces these people to go kill someone for her. And what we see with serial killers again and again is that the less that charge gives them, the more they want to kill and the more often they kill.
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And the sloppier they get. Yes, they do have to make the stakes very high.
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Well, the reason why the cult reactivated was because their breadwinner, Zach Valentine, had quit his lucrative insurance agent job to start his own business as a stockbroker, and he had failed miserably.
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Yeah, 10 years on. I quit smoking over 10 years ago now. Step one of the patch, still right here on the left arm.
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I'm forced to say Patches?
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Is that the sequel to Christmas Shoes? Nope. It sounds exactly like Christmas Shoes.
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Clarence Carter, the same guy who did Strokin?
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I'll be strokin'. Now, for Cecilia, the cult's financial problems were not a result of her spending too much money on dumb shit. Instead, she told the cult that it was all their fault because they weren't bringing in enough money.
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Like they do all have legit jobs, except they just don't pay very much. And, you know, and Cecilia is at this point, she's created this story where she has all these financial burdens, like these medical burdens, like I'm dying of cancer. She also said, my kidneys are failing. I have to pay for medicine and dialysis. And, you know, I have to pay for psychiatry appointments for it, my DID.
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So she's created so many bills and she can't say at this point, like, oh, my kidneys are fine now. Or, oh, I don't have DID anymore. She has to keep that story.
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story going you know and at the same time she's just filling up her bank account and fucking having you know fucking the most expensive top shelf margaritas that the limelight pub and girl can offer because you know those silver dollar margaritas at the limelight have to be a man oh man they fucking catch up
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Well, if the cult didn't hop to it and turn on the cash bigot, Cecilia told them that she was going to be killed by Satanists. As far as the orphans went, that pretense was dropped altogether. Or at least it faded into the background.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, she could say anything because, you know, at this point, it's all magic.
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Yep. Either way, though, the only thing on the cult's mind was getting money for Cecilia. Now, their first plan was to kill Zach Valentine to lesser their financial burden. Great idea. Because that's the thing. I mean, they're looking at it. They're basically looking at a budget and they're like, well, we could get rid of Zach. You know, that'll save 40 bucks a week. Yeah.
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But after they voted that down, they decided... Oh, wow.
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After they voted that down, they decided robbery and murder really was their only option to make a quick buck. Tell me about it. So, Cecilia had LaRue draw up a list of potential victims.
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next that's the 2026 budget for lpn now they figured that financial advisors would be good targets because they often held appointments outside of their own office you want to make money killing a south african dave matthews or a police officer.
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But having appointments outside the office, that would be key in luring targets into a situation from which they couldn't escape. So, Miranda suggested her own financial advisor, Anthony Schoenfield.
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Well, LaRue called Schoenfield under the name Ruan Schumann.
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LaRue set up an appointment for the next day, May 10th, at the Key West Shopping Center, ostensibly for advice about life insurance and investment. Yep, absolutely on my way. But a couple hours before the meeting, LaRue called Anthony Schoenfield and told him that he couldn't actually meet at the shopping center.
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That's what he's going to do. Well, the reasoning behind this runaround was that the cult believed that financial advisors kept paperwork about where they went for their meetings. So if they changed the location at the last minute, then the paper trail would lead police to think that Anthony had simply disappeared somewhere between his office and the shopping center.
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We'll talk about the money here in a second.
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Yeah. Now, when Anthony showed up to the cult's apartment complex, he ran into Marinda, not knowing that Marinda was LaRue's mother. So, Marinda, LaRue, and Anthony walked into Marinda's apartment, apartment number 17, where John Barnard and Marcel were waiting. After LaRue turned on some loud music, Marinda pulled out her pistol and told Anthony, This is a stick-up, see? Yeah, see?
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LaRue, embarrassed by his mother's old-timey vernacular, Hey, mother-in-law. You are the most ignorant bitch.
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Yeah, it's a great movie.
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And so LaRue tied Anthony's hands and feet with tape and was strong enough to pin Anthony to the floor when the 60-year-old man tried wiggling away. Again, they asked for his PIN number. And once Anthony's bank cards were in their possession, Marcel and John ran out to the ATM to take out money.
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And as soon as they were gone, LaRue pulled out his choki-choki and strangled his third victim to death.
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And that basically solidified LaRue as the new chief executioner of Electus Perdeus. Oui. I love to murder.
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Well, as far as the body went, the cult wrapped it in plastic bags and put it in the trunk of Anthony's Honda. They then drove it to an elementary school and parked it in the lot with the keys in the ignition, hoping that someone would steal it and take care of the body for them.
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But Anthony's wife immediately noticed he was missing when he didn't show up at home that night, and after she called the police, Anthony's car and his body were found immediately. But finally, after all those years, a piece of hard evidence was created that linked Electus Perdeus to a murder.
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When LaRue took almost $1,000 out of Anthony's account at a local gas station ATM, a CCTV caught him on camera. That, however, brought the police no closer to actually finding Electus Perdeus because the CCTV footage wasn't clear enough for a full identification. And so, celebrating a win after three goose eggs, Electus Perdeus immediately began searching for another target.
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But the win was just $1,000. Yeah, no, it's not good. I mean, compared to $40 and change, it's not bad.
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Well, after finding an insurance agent named Kevin McAlpine, LaRue, using the stupid alias of Ruan Schumann again, made an appointment at the same shopping center, then again changed the location at the last minute to his mother's apartment.
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Kevin McAlpine's murder went down pretty much the same as Anthony Schoenfield's, but this time, after bringing the body down to the victim's car, they drove it to a bad part of town to hopefully guarantee a theft. But after Miranda made two ATM withdrawals for $75 each, because these withdrawal amounts from the ATMs in South Africa are fucking insane. Oh, you know what it is?
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So they're taking out like 4,000 rand. Yes. Yeah. It's the dumbest fucking name for a currency I've ever heard.
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Rand.
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But after Miranda made two ATM withdrawals for 75 bucks each, Kevin's wife shut off the car because she too immediately knew that something was wrong. The slightly revised plan of parking the car in a bad neighborhood didn't work either, because shortly after Kevin McAlpine's wife called the police, they found his car and his dead body.
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Now, it seems like the pace of murder for Electus Perdeus didn't really change depending on how successful a score was. If the score was good, they were excited to try it again. If it was bad, then they needed to do it again as quickly as possible to make up for the loss. But either way, Cecilia made sure to pressure her people as much as she could to commit more murder.
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possibly because she was, as I said earlier, ramping up like many serial killers do before they get arrested. Or this is also an option because she didn't want her people to have time to think about what they were actually fucking doing.
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Well, and that's the thing is that it's not only like, it's not just murdering people for hundreds of dollars at a time. It's murdering people and thinking that there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. That what you're doing is justified.
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It's overused because it happens all the time.
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I don't think Marcel was doing meth. No, not as much. I don't think they were doing as much meth. I don't know how much meth LaRue was doing. I think it was Zach and Cecilia and possibly Miranda that were doing the majority of the meth.
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Yeah, Rhea has disappeared. Rhea moved to a new town, changed her name, and she's around, though. Okay. But just four days after the murder of Kevin McAlpine, Electus Perdeus, who were basically a murderous criminal gang at this point, they made an appointment with a real estate agent this time. woman named Hanley Lattigan, after seeing her in a Remax ad.
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For some reason, Miranda assumed that real estate agents had cash on hand, more at least than financial advisors. That's the dumbest shit possible. Yeah, I don't know why. Did they think that people were paying real estate agents cash for homes?
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Because Zach had failed so miserably, they had to keep Cecilia's stained lifestyle going somehow.
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Oh, yeah. That was the whole point. Yes. Yeah. I mean, because at the end of the day, if they're just killing people, they'd get more money from a fucking waiter. Yes. Now.
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That's what I mean.
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Well, because Marinda assumed that real estate agents have more cash than financial advisors, she made an appointment where Hanley was set to pick her up across the street from Kosana Apartments. Meanwhile, Marcel was actually doing her best to try to escape the cult.
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While preparations for the murder of Hanley Lattigan were being made, Marcel was informed that she'd been admitted to study medicine at the University of Pretoria. Ugh.
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I'll push back on that. Marcel never murdered anyone.
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Yes. Over and over again. But instead of being happy for her daughter, Miranda was incensed by the news. She told Marcel that she should just kill her like she'd killed Michaela for even thinking about abandoning Electus Perdeus and more importantly, abandoning Cecilia.
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But the problem with that robbery, the one in which they killed Joan and Peter Meyer, was that the crew had come away with just a hair over $40 for the whole operation. It involved costumes, backstories, financial plans. Now, after the robbery double murder was ultimately a net negative to the cult, they decided to enter the world of insurance fraud.
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So Marcel resigned herself to tacitly participating in yet another murder. This time, however, their quarry got clever before she got killed. After... After she was lured into Apartment 17 and told to transfer money to Miranda at gunpoint, Hanley instead transferred a large sum of money to her husband.
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This triggered an alert on her husband's phone, and after he called her in a panic and got no answer, he canceled her bank cards. This time, however, CCTV managed to capture a second member of Electus Perdeus. Marcel was able to withdraw $172 American from Hanley's account at an ATM before all her cards were canceled.
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But after that, police had two suspects in what were now being called the appointment murders. But with Hanley, the crew tried a different plan in disposing of the body. after stuffing the corpse into a trash can for transport, because I suppose they were worried about neighbors seeing them carry a third body-shaped bag out of apartment 17.
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They chose Marinda's car for disposal. See, Hanley's car was covered in REMAX stickers, which would make it even easier to find the rest. So Hanley's body was wrapped in a red blanket and propped up in Marinda's seat to make it look like she was sleeping. They then drove out of town past the sewage treatment facility, which South Africans disgustingly call those sewage farms.
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But after finding a remote spot, the cult dragged Hanley's body behind some bushes and just left it there. Then they drove back to Kruger's Dorp, throwing Hanley's possessions out the car window on the way back.
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The one thing the cult didn't think about was that if they didn't use Hanley's car for disposal, then her very identifiable car would instead sit across the street from the very location where she'd been murdered. But when police came out to investigate, Cecilia arrogantly went out to chat with them about Hanley's disappearance under the auspices of being a concerned citizen.
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Again, like a serial killer, Cecilia enjoyed talking with the police about her crimes. Hanley's body, meanwhile, was found the next morning by a bunch of kids on their way to school. But still, no one was looking at Cecilia Stain for any of these murders. She was nowhere near connected to it, technically. And she soon decided to start work on another insurance scheme.
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This time, the victim would be LaRue and Marcel's estranged father, who had just begun to reconnect with his children. He was taking them out on, like, fishing trips and shit.
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But before that murder came to pass, Electus Pradeus would finally begin to unravel after 11 murders, all because LaRue Stain was not particularly good at crime. LaRue had used the same name to make appointments with murder victims Anthony Scholefield and Kevin McAlpine, in addition to using the same meeting location, which was the first clue that connected the appointment murders together.
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Additionally, LaRue had called to change the location of one of these appointments too early. Anthony Scholefield had written down the new address of the appointment, Cosano Apartments, which was the same place that Hanley Lattigan's car had been found.
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And once police canvassed the complex, they noticed that LaRue and Marcel looked similar to the people caught on CCTV footage using the ATM cards of appointment murder victims. The two of them were therefore arrested for murder, kidnapping, and robbery. Finally. And as soon as they were in custody, Cecilia Stain's fabricated world began to quickly fall apart.
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While in custody, LaRue cracked almost immediately and confessed to all three appointment murders. I think he was ready to talk.
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But that's the thing, is that at this point, LaRue is still saying, I did everything.
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At this point, LaRue is like, me and Marcel did it all. You got us on camera. We did it all. Yes. But Marcel stayed silent and wouldn't say anything until well into their trial. This would prove to be a huge mistake. Meanwhile, the DNA test results for Gerard Jackson had finally come back, confirming that it was not Zach Valentine who'd burnt to a crisp in his BMW six months before.
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Going off a tip from Gerard's wife, who popped back up, police found Zach at the headquarters of a group that organized Bible camps where he was surviving mostly on chicken livers. I hope they were fried.
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Yeah, but nothing but chicken livers.
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But if chicken livers are your entire meal, when found, Zach was quickly identified by his numerous horrendous back tattoos.
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Oh, yeah. In addition to his Electus Perdeus tramp stamp.
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Zach had a lion's head, a dog paw print, the face of just some guy.
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Well, now he's going to jail. After he's gone to Africa.
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You also had a demon. Oh, yeah. And a lot of random words and names in both English and Hebrew under the heading blessings.
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LaRue, meanwhile, was identified partly by his large back tattoo of a puppet that was very much in the style of Johan Vasquez, the Johnny the Homicidal Maniac guy.
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Yeah. In true emo style, the word puppet was tattooed above the image because LaRue said that his strings were being pulled by Cecilia and his mother.
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Now, once the connection was made between Gerard Jackson and Zach Valentine, a further connection was made between Zach and the appointment murders. And police rightly saw this as weird as fuck. So police started looking into all the other unsolved murders in Kruger's Dorp that had a bit of a twist.
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In the meantime, the leader of Electus Perdeus and her number one woman were finally arrested in connection to insurance fraud related to Zach's supposed death. And so, on July 29th, 2016, Miranda Stain, 50 years old, and Cecilia Stain, 35. Yeah, she's 35 and all that.
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I know. God, she looks like a hard 48. She does. Yeah. But they were finally put behind bars. And once they were in jail, police got an anonymous tip to search the high school where Miranda taught English. And were quite surprised to find 3,000 rounds of ammunition and shotgun shells hidden in the home ec storage room.
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Very good job. But before Miranda was arrested, she'd gone to the principal of her school and asked him to notarize a change in her will. Anyone can be a notary. My mom is a notary. Absolutely, but it means nothing. You just stamp something. I don't know how she became a notary, but she's definitely a notary. You just pay for it online.
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Well, the thing is that they really didn't have the imagination nor the desire to plan a scheme that didn't somehow involve killing someone. After Zach Valentine's wife, Michaela, was murdered by the cult after she tried to leave, Zach changed the main beneficiary on his life insurance policy to Cecilia Stain, meaning she would be the recipient of over $200,000 upon Zach's debt.
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Anyone can become a notary. Because I have a pastor's license. But you don't need to be a pastor to be a notary.
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Yeah, but you're also only a pastor in New York State because that's where you married me in Carolina. No, I belong to the Universal Life Church. And that's state, that's countrywide? Yeah. Yeah, I can marry anybody. Universal Life Church.
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Cool. Well, after Marinda's kids were charged with murder, Marinda had modified the document to cut them out and leave everything to Cecilia. Because at this point, they're like, all right, LaRue and Marcel are taking the rap for the appointment murders. We're cool. We're fine. We're safe.
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But after LaRue was shown the document cutting him out of his mother's will, he was finally done with Electus Perdeus, saying something along the lines of, fuck her, in regards to his mother. Instead of taking the full rap for himself, along with his sister, he told police about Cecilia and Miranda's involvement in the appointment murders.
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They really are.
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That's the cue. That's the thing. If you're in the cult, getting ground up and getting thrown to the wolves is not only possible, it is inevitable. It's coming. It's coming in a big way. Yes. Yes. Well, the last member of the cult to be arrested was John Barnard, who had stupidly taken his own phone with him to every crime scene. So his location at all times was easily determined.
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Barnard also very quickly confessed to his part in the appointment murders, but added the murder of Joan and Peter Meyer. And just to put all this into perspective, the period of time between the murder of the Meyers and the murder of Hanley Ladigan? Six months. Six months.
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There was still, however, the matter of what had come to be known as the satanic murders. That was the first cluster committed by Electus Perdeus. And those murders, by the way, those four murders, that was three months back in 2012. Yeah.
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Well, it seems the only one who truly cared about the satanic murders was a man named Captain Buison, who'd made the connection between Zach Valentine and the rest of Electus Perdeus. He had an inkling that the appointment murders and the satanic murders were all committed by this same group of idiots.
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But when he went to review the documents concerning the murders of Natasha Berger, Joy Boonsayer, Pastor Reg Ben Dixon, and Michaela Valentine, he found that all of the police reports had mysteriously disappeared. Just gone.
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Now, it's speculated by author Jan Marks that three officers known only as X, Y, and Z in her book, presumably because she was afraid of naming them, they were a part of a cover-up for the cult. As we've said many times before, this all probably stems from the fact that Cecilia Stane's husband was a cop.
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I think it was down to pure corruption. Yeah.
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But officers X, Y, and Z tried covering their asses by claiming that they'd infiltrated the cult after the confession tapes made by James Vermock had been rendered unusable somehow. But no paperwork concerning authorization for undercover work, nor any reports on what they supposedly discovered, were ever found.
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Well, the point is that they were never there. No. They had never infiltrated the cult.
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No. They covered it all up and tried to forget about it.
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That I will say. I will agree with that. A South African police official claimed that the offending officers did face disciplinary action and criminal charges for fraud and obstruction of justice. There's no evidence of that either. And even if they did face charges, those charges certainly aren't equal to the crime of covering up four incredibly brutal murders. No.
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But even so, there was enough evidence to link the satanic murders to the appointment murders. And Electus Perdeus went on trial for all 11.
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But the plan wasn't to kill Zach. Instead, Electus Perdeus were going to fake his death and use another body in his place. Now, for the body, Electus Perdeus chose a 41-year-old black man named Gerard Jackson, who lived at a nearby shelter with his pregnant wife.
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I'm not changing at all.
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Now, as the state was building its case against Electus Perdeus, they found that most of the people who could have been witnesses were too terrified of Cecilia Stane to testify, and some refused to even speak about her or Electus Perdeus.
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But, in the end, Amber Dupree's and James Vermock came out of witness protection to help put their former cult away. And finally... Rhea Grunewald took the stand to repair some of the damage she'd done by contributing more than anyone to Cecilia's rise to power. She could still suck my fucking dick. Yeah, I mean, she was the reason why all this happened. Yes.
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Miranda, meanwhile, testified as well, but only to confess... She recalled all of the murders in great detail, including the satanic murders, and attempted to take all the blame. Because even after all this, she was still trying to protect Cecilia.
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psychopath that woman and the fact that she was when she's on that like taking it all just being like i did everything yeah it was all me it's a full psychopath who posed as an english teacher for she was when she joined electus perdeus she's like 45 yeah like for like i mean she joined in her fucking 40s can you imagine that like three years from now joining a fucking cult
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No, especially not of this kind. Like, this is fucking insane. Yes. I mean, it just shows you what normal people are fucking capable of.
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The cult had recently befriended him, and because of his station in life and because of his race, they figured correctly that his disappearance wouldn't be investigated.
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Now, that actually, that happened to me once in college as well. This cute girl, like, invited me to a meeting. That's what happened. And I, but that's the thing is that I kind of.
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I had a feeling that it was going to be like bad. So I had my buddy, Nick, like call me. It was like, call me 30 minutes after I get there. And as a way out. And if I say like, Oh no, the station's gone off air. Like, cause our radio station used to always go off the air. Then, um, it was ready for me to come to run. Or if I would say like, okay, everything's cool. Bye.
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And, uh, yeah, I immediately was like, Oh fuck man. And he, I've never heard someone cackle so hard. Yeah. On the other end of the phone because he was the one who came up with the plan. He's like, dude, I'm telling you, man, you're going to get caught in a fucking Christian trap.
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Yeah. And I completely ignored the conversation I had with the girl a couple of days earlier about how God had to exist because the human eye is too complex. We'll say anything.
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That's not brains talking. That's a penis listening.
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But Cecilia, when she took the stand, all she would say is, I don't know anything. I wasn't there. And I don't remember. It wasn't me.
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it wasn't me yeah like oh she did she just said it but very seriously yeah now zach valentine likewise denied that he was involved and marcel said nothing until the week before closing arguments but near the end of the trial marcel admitted that she was present for many of the murders and it technically helped with body disposal but
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but had done so only because she was rightfully terrified that her mother would actually murder her if she didn't. The judge, however, offered no leniency. While most of the rest of Electus Perdeus got what they deserved, the judge ruled that Marcel voluntarily associated herself with the group, even though she was only 14 years old when the murders began.
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As a result, she received seven life sentences plus 144 years. Should have tried harder to get out.
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My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with Henry Zebrowski. What do you think about werewolf mummies or a mummy Dracula or a werewolf mummy Blue Lagoon monster?
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Well, she tried to, but the knife didn't ever actually go in.
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I don't blame Marcel at all.
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Yeah, getting out, I don't think was really, I don't know if that was really an option for her.
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At any point, yeah.
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Well, they threw the book at everybody except LaRue.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
I mean, everyone else got pretty much the same as Marcel, Cecilia, Miranda, John. They all got multiple life sentences. But LaRue, because he turned state's witness, only got 25 years. And that's after he voluntarily and enthusiastically murdered four people with his Chokey Chokey. Get about six years per murder.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
But even though everyone in Electus Perdeus, except LaRue, will be in prison until the day they die, Captain Buieson believes that there are more murders connected to the cult. I absolutely more than believe that there are more murders connected to the cult. At least two unsolved murders can credibly be connected to Electus Perdeus. And that's not even counting the story of Morin Hormsa.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
See, in September of 2008, six years before Electus Perdeus began murdering their fellow Christians, 18-year-old Morin Harmsa murdered a friend and injured four others with a samurai sword at his high school in Kruger's Dorb. He did all of this wearing a mask that resembled the one worn by Corey Taylor, lead singer of Slipknot.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
the lead singer's name now I love Corey Taylor he's very talented I love Slipknot I fucking adore Slipknot and that's the thing is that like Slipknot they were easy to blame they have the song on Iowa the heretic anthem you know fucking if you're 5-5-5 them 6-6-6 I fucking love that song it's great it's awesome
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah, but as far as how wrong these people got it, I mean, I'll stand by Heretic Anthem as a positive outlet for adolescent rage. You would tell kids like me way back when that feeling isolated and different was a totally normal feeling to have. It's new metal at its best.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Did you look like the big fat clown? That was the one.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
But, I mean, that's why I love Slipknot. They were the fuck you to Korn's fuck me.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
It paired nicely with System of a Down's more learned fuck the system.
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Yeah, and Limp Bizkit's ultimately unhelpful message of fuck everything. But, yeah, System of a Down and Slipknot, two best new metal bands out there. Korn, close third.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they're great. But the boy with the sword, Morin Harmsa, he did claim that Slipknot made him do it. He said that when he listened to their music, he lost control of his body and his mind, and therefore he had to take a samurai sword and stab five people.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
I'm sorry. And so the manipulation began in the typically Byzantine electus per deus fashion. Every plan they have is so fucking complicated.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
He did it to me. That's why I got that public masturbation charge because I listened to Stroken by Clarence Carter. I'll be stroking. To the east and to the west. Now, likewise, when police searched his room, they found the standard Ouija boards and so-called satanic spell books, which, of course, made this a satanic murder. Slap it. That was their big thing. This is a satanic murder. Bye.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
What police didn't know at the time was that just before Moran Harmsa went on his stabbing spree, he was receiving so-called spiritual counseling from Cecilia Stane. Yeah, dude. Presumably by way of the overcomers through Christ. Cecilia's about two years into the overcomers at this point.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah. And so, while we don't know for sure that Cecilia Stane talked Morne into his attempted killing spree, I don't think it's a coincidence that wherever Cecilia went, murder followed.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
But it's important to note that murder only became an option after Cecilia's insane narrative was accepted and amplified by a group of fundamentalist Christians who so desperately wanted the myth of murderous satanic cults to be real that they accidentally created one themselves.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah. Well, in early December 2015, Cecilia Stane hired Gerard to clean a storage room in her apartment complex, then told Gerard and his wife that they could then live in that storage room rent free. Okay. The only catch, besides the fact that it was just a fucking room without a bathroom or a kitchen. It's a storage unit. You keep saying storage room. It's a unit. Very different.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Good phone again.
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This is eight years ago.
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And they were doing it for a Christian purpose. They were fundamentalist Christians. All of them except for Cecilia.
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Yeah. Shouldn't be used as a way to justify murder or fucking with anybody else's life. Yep.
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That's what I mean.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
No, it's at the apartment complex, so it is a room. But it's a unit still. You know what I mean? It doesn't have a window.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
No, a unit is a part of a larger complex.
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And hail Gein, you fucker.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, the catch was that Gerard and his wife needed to be locked inside at night so the other residents of the complex wouldn't stumble upon them. Poor and desperate, Gerard and his wife agreed. And you'd think that this had something to do with the plan. Nope. But it had nothing to do with the plan at all. She loves improvising. Yeah.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
After four nights of sleeping in the box, Cecilia lied and told Gerard and his wife that they'd been caught and they had to leave. Wouldn't they know? There's no place for them to go. Yeah, I mean... They would know if they got caught.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Yeah, our friend Mike Lawrence definitely knew he was caught by my landlord when he was fucking sleeping in our first studio, which was also the cellar in my apartment building. He got caught. He knew he was caught, and he was gone while I was at the... I went to the grocery store, and he was gone when I got back.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Well, what Cecilia told them was that she had found a cheap room to rent for Gerard and his wife just a block away. But at the same time, in preparation for the eventual murder, after which he'd have to hide, Zach paid for a week's stay at the nearby Herberg Hotel under the name James Vermock.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
And this was a bit of a, this is kind of arrogant because James Vermock was the guy who'd recorded confessions of the so-called satanic murders and had gone into witness protection after nothing happened.
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That's what I don't get. I think it's, well, it's with these types of people, they like to do the thing that's evil. Like, oh, how evil is it that I'm using James Vermark's name?
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Thank you. That's true. That's true. My mind is too addled by the Monster Mash to think correctly, and I'm here with Ed Larson. I haven't gotten over the Monster Mash.
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And that's why we're the good. Yeah. We're the chain. Yes, that's it. And so after Gerard's pregnant wife was presumably rehoused to the cheap room, Zach asked Gerard to go for a drive. Cecilia, meanwhile, had prepared three bottles of juice, two orange and one mango, but she filled the mango bottle with 20 sleeping pills.
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The plan was to knock out Jared, then kill him so his body could take the place of Zach's.
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Electus Perpdeus very much did enjoy being edgy. Oh, they did. Yeah. Now, when it came time to take the drive, Gerard found that this had turned into a group outing. Zach picked LaRue for his murder buddy, and the two of them loaded up Zach's BMW with kerosene and gasoline before picking up Gerard.
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But there was also another car, which was driven by Miranda Stain and the cult's newest member, John Barnard. They would assist once the scheme was played to its conclusion. And so, with everything planned out in advance, the best their idiot minds could handle, Zack and LaRue picked up Gerard and the two-car caravan headed towards a town called Petrus Stain.
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Shut up.
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Shut your shit.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
Gerard soon passed out, and once he closed his eyes, LaRue brought out a blue nylon rope and strangled Gerard to death while Zach continued driving. After pulling over, Zach and LaRue were joined by Marinda and John, and the four of them put Zach's BMW into neutral and gingerly pushed it off the road with Gerard's body still in the passenger seat.
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After dragging the body over to the driver's side, they slipped Zach's silver Adidas ring on Gerard's finger to help identify the body as Zach. He's a black man.
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Then, to make sure the Benz was correctly identified, they removed the license plate and tossed it away from the car, thinking that no one would find it odd that the license plate had unscrewed itself and wandered a few yards away on its own.
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But now we get to the part where we see why it didn't matter if Durab was black or not. The cult doused the car in kerosene and gasoline and lit it aflame. desperately hoping that whoever found the car would just assume that the body behind the wheel was Zach Valentine's and wouldn't ask questions about a car that had seemingly pulled off the road and spontaneously combusted.
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Episode 597: The Krugersdorp Cult Murders Part IV - The Werewolf of Wall Street
But that was their plan is that the body would be so charred and unidentifiable that they wouldn't say like, oh, this is a black guy. It would just be a crispy corpse. It just doesn't really work out like that.
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No, they wouldn't be able to tell. Well, unless he broke the hyoid bone. But that's also assuming that they looked for such a thing. Yeah. And so Zach was driven back to the Harburg Hotel with the plan to hide out until the life insurance policy paid. I am, however, a little fuzzy on the details as to what Zach was supposed to do after that.
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You're just a hairy fat man. So here we are. Cougars DARP part four. The conclusion to this series.