Mitch Joel

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Thinking With Mitch Joel · The Value Of Uncertainty With Simone Stolzoff - TWMJ #1037 · 24 May 2026 podcast

But essentially, someone had to tell Bono that he had to sing differently. He had to sing into a higher range, a more bold range. He was kind of in a lower stasis range. And he was very hesitant to do it. It was almost like this idea of opening up his throat type of thing, like really letting the songs go. And obviously, he did that. And that became the album, the breakthrough album. And it totally worked. And as you're saying that, I'm reflecting on the fact that, well, here you have artists who are in... voice-verified

The swimming pool of taking risks and challenges. And I was now being able to reflect on this and watching in real time, Bono really struggled with that idea of taking the risk. It's interesting. It is, you know, and I think the breakthrough happened because he was willing to do so. voice-verified

There is a myriad of breakthroughs that can come on the other side. Companies bring me in when they need to shift how their teams think about the present and the future. Since 2005, I've delivered keynotes for brands like Google, Walmart, Lego and Shopify, helping leaders and their teams make sense of disruption, AI and what voice-verified

And what's really next in business. These are not canned talks. They're customized to your industry and designed to spark actual change. So if you're planning an event or leadership gathering, head over to MitchJoel.com and let's get your audience thinking differently. I was thinking as I was reading the book and reflecting that what's really interesting as a thought is... voice-verified

What we often will define as comfortable or safe is often not good for us. Especially when we talk about vocations and work, it's this weird fear of this uncertainty. But at the same time, you are not satiated. You believe you're not being paid enough. You're not being acknowledged. Or it's just comfortable and easy and that feels safe. But you know intuitively that... voice-verified

there's got to be more I'm assuming that people are this very interesting paradox that develops there which is you have to take that risk towards uncertainty but we often won't even self-acknowledge that this quote-unquote comfort is kind of not great yeah and it's often an illusion I think voice-verified

So it's one thing to identify this idea of uncertainty. And there's a real beauty in the way you write. You're a very gifted writer in storytelling at the beginning. And being able to bring, I think, the reader into this idea of thinking about their own uncertainty, what level of risk am I interested in? How do I handle these things? Yeah. voice-verified

But that's not really a book. The book is really this idea of how do you get buff? How do you build a level of tolerance for this? And I'm curious where you started on that journey. And when did you feel comfortable with, oh, no, this is more than just head faking yourself type of thing? voice-verified

It would be easy for me to sit here and tell you all the woes of the world, all the problems from climate to artificial intelligence to the job market to what are young people going to do to the case of men in this world to the case of diversity and on and on and on. voice-verified

And yet, when we look at it, we actually do know that we are in a much better position today than we were even 40 or 50 years ago. Even the running joke of we want to make something great again, whatever it might be. It's like if you actually had to snap your fingers and live in your grandparents' house, you probably wouldn't be thrilled. Like no internet, very little air conditioning. Their work was brutal in comparison to what happened in terms of unions and people having access and no connectivity, on and on and on and on and on. voice-verified

We are more affluent. We are healthier. I mean, at the macro level, I recognize, and this is the challenge, underneath it, you just have people living their lives and saying, it's not like that for everyone. And I get that. So in relation to this, I was thinking a lot about this idea that if it is true that just at a macro scale, things are way better than they were, right? voice-verified

Why does the uncertainty increase? Does it increase because we see so much more and we are connected so much more? Like, was it not necessarily better before, but just things were more compacted? And so that enabled you to live your life and not have all of these external wars. What do you think are some of these big challenges? voice-verified

factors that are contributing to this because in any other scenario you would say well things are going so much better the uncertainty would be so much less like you can be an entrepreneur you can work from home you can freelance you can do like there's so many different jobs you can connect globally and sell on me like i could go on and on but yet here we are with these numbers and these glass door ratings yeah i think the internet and mobile phones in particular play a huge role on a few different levels voice-verified

Now, again, we can play in the... I love the sandbox of unstable job market because it is. But that is also a massive opportunity for a lot of people because you can do multiple types of work remotely. You can start your own. You can be... So I wonder if it's... voice-verified

antiquated structures that shift, that create so many actual new opportunities, but we are locked into like this weird culture thing where we can't imagine it. And I mean, it falls really square into this uncertainty. Like when I was working, voice-verified

I could not financially get ahead. And fortunately or unfortunately, I was surrounded by people who were somewhat exceptional and it was extremely frustrating. And one day I woke up and thought, I'm tired of this allowance model I found myself in. This idea that when you're younger, hey, mom and dad, can I have $25? I cleaned out the garage or whatever. Now it was like, hey, boss, can I have my salary? Because I did these five or 10. I was like, I have to get out of this mindset. voice-verified

A lot of uncertainty, a lot of fear, a lot of stress, for sure. But I'm just wondering, how do we transcend that? To me, if I were younger, I'd feel like, oh, well, so many more opportunities in terms of how I should think about this. And again, the other crazy thing I was thinking about is, you wrote the book. We have the information. It's not like we don't know how to name this thing or look at it or have the data. So what is this disconnect? Yeah. voice-verified

I don't know what to do, so I'll just watch another YouTube video and maybe pick something up. Or you can click that tab and go to LinkedIn and reach out to somebody and just say, hey, can we grab a coffee? And who knows where that... It's so true that the action versus inaction in a world where we have so many options to make us feel busy or that we're growing, when in most instances we're really not. I think the climate change example is a prime one when it comes to this idea. Because... voice-verified

sends that DM to that person that you want to learn from. It's through the action that the anxiety subsides. When you were talking about geography and access and what that can do, I was reminded of back in the day, I used to talk a lot about, you know, as digital was really becoming something in the early 2000s. And my half joke at the time was online dating at the time was seen as voice-verified

very like, why would I ever put myself out online? Now it's like just to see that as an industry, as its own unique social experiment. And you almost can't find anybody unless you're online dating in this day and age. But my line at the time was, voice-verified

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