Mo Gawdat

All of the transformers are not there yet. They will not come up with something that hasn't been there before. They will come up with the best of everything and generatively will build a little bit on top of that. But very soon they'll come up with things we've never found out. We've never known.

Interesting.

Interesting.

That's the algorithm of creativity. I've been screaming that in the world of AI for a very long time because you always get those people who... really just want to be proven right, okay? And so they'll say, oh no, but hold on, human ingenuity, they'll never match that. Like, man, please, please, you know, human ingenuity is algorithmic.

That's the algorithm of creativity. I've been screaming that in the world of AI for a very long time because you always get those people who... really just want to be proven right, okay? And so they'll say, oh no, but hold on, human ingenuity, they'll never match that. Like, man, please, please, you know, human ingenuity is algorithmic.

It's look at all of the possible solutions you can find to a problem, take out the ones that have been tried before and keep the ones that haven't been tried before. And those are creative solutions. It's an algorithmic way of describing creative is, good solution that's never been tried before. You can do that with ChatGPT with a prompt.

It's look at all of the possible solutions you can find to a problem, take out the ones that have been tried before and keep the ones that haven't been tried before. And those are creative solutions. It's an algorithmic way of describing creative is, good solution that's never been tried before. You can do that with ChatGPT with a prompt.

And for the first time, we now finally have a glimpse of intelligence that is actually not ours.

And for the first time, we now finally have a glimpse of intelligence that is actually not ours.

You're hearing it with like, no, but it is.

You're hearing it with like, no, but it is.

It is really shocking. The idea of you and I inevitably are going to be somewhere in the middle of nowhere in, you know, in 10 years time. I used to say 2055. I'm thinking 2037 is a very pivotal moment now, you know, and we will not know if we're there hiding from the machines. We don't know that yet. there is a likelihood that we'll be hiding from the machines.

It is really shocking. The idea of you and I inevitably are going to be somewhere in the middle of nowhere in, you know, in 10 years time. I used to say 2055. I'm thinking 2037 is a very pivotal moment now, you know, and we will not know if we're there hiding from the machines. We don't know that yet. there is a likelihood that we'll be hiding from the machines.

And there is a likelihood we'll be there because they don't need podcasters anymore. Oh, excuse me. Oh, absolutely true, Steve. No, Moe, that's where I draw the line. No, no, no, no, that's where I draw the line. There is absolutely no doubt. Thank you for coming, Moe. It's great to do the part three and thank you for being here.

And there is a likelihood we'll be there because they don't need podcasters anymore. Oh, excuse me. Oh, absolutely true, Steve. No, Moe, that's where I draw the line. No, no, no, no, that's where I draw the line. There is absolutely no doubt. Thank you for coming, Moe. It's great to do the part three and thank you for being here.

Okay, so who here wants to make a bet that Stephen Bartlett will be interviewing an AI within the next two years?

Okay, so who here wants to make a bet that Stephen Bartlett will be interviewing an AI within the next two years?

About me? Yeah. Oh, man.

About me? Yeah. Oh, man.

So I've already been replaced. Let's follow that thread for a second. Yeah. Because you're one of the smartest people I know.