Mo Gawdat

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2,930 appearances 4 recordings 2 series first heard May 2025 last heard 1 Jun

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And for those transitions to happen, I believe the right thing to do when the cost of producing everything is almost zero because of AI and robots.

Because the cost of harvesting energy should actually tend to zero once we get more intelligent to harvest the energy out of thin air.

Then a possible scenario, and I believe a scenario that AI will eventually do in the utopia is: yeah, anyone can get anything they want.

Don't overconsume.

We're not gonna abuse the the planet's resources, but it costs nothing.

So like the

old days where we were hunter-gatherers, you would, you know, forge for some berries and you'll find them ready in in nature, okay?

We can, in ten years' time, twelve years' time, build a society where

You can forge for an iPhone in nature.

It will be made out of thin air.

Nano physics will allow you to do that.

Okay.

But the challenge, believe it or not, is not tech.

The challenge is a mindset.

Because the elite, why would they give you that for free?

Okay, and the system would morph into, no, no, hold on.

We will make more money, we will be bigger capitalists, we will feed our ego and hunger for power more and more.

And

For them, give them UBI.

And then three weeks later give them less UBI.

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