Molly Graham

Right.

It matters to me that that I've proven myself.

Like I've proven myself that I'm good, but a lot of it was like proving myself to like all the people around me that I was good.

And, and, you know, that did come in the form of these externalities.

And then I think I, like so many of my friends hit a moment where I,

I had the title or I had the job that I kind of like thought I wanted.

And I was like, oh, like I have this friend that tells the story.

I actually told it in the TED talk where she's like climbing this ladder and literally gets to be CEO and then goes, is this all there is?

You know, I think of those as kind of external definitions of success, meaning they look successful to other people.

You know, like I'm I don't like this.

And I think when I was early in my career, that is how I thought about success.

And it's like, well, then what?

I was like, I'm just going to crush this stuff and get promoted.

You know, and I think there's just these moments when.

you get out of that sort of I'm proving myself phase and you have to really ask like, okay, what is my definition of success?

And other people will.

It matters to me what other people think of me.

Right.

It matters to me that that I've proven myself.

Like I've proven myself that I'm good.