Munya Chawawa
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194 appearances
2 recordings
2 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 28 May
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There is, of course, one caveat to that, though, which is that, as we've discussed on this show before, stats are stats and they're fine.
But as the prime minister himself said the other day, spreadsheets are fine, but you need to tell a story.
And even when there is evidence to show that even when...
immigration is going down, the public still think it's going up.
So polls which were conducted over the course of the last year, when migration was going down, you ask the public, is migration going up or down?
They'll tell you it's going up.
And that also tells us why it's so important for certainly Labour politicians to get the message out there that they've had this success story in its own terms, that they've done what they said they were going to do, which is reduce migration.
Now, whether you could ever please the Farages of this world...
is another question, because they'll just say what needs to be even fewer.
But nonetheless, you do have to land that message with the public.
Otherwise, they'll just listen to snake oil salesmen who are telling you that it's going up and it's going down.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I think you could make an argument that this week has been one of the best weeks just on paper in terms of figures and news stories.
It's been one of the best weeks for any government, possibly since the Cameron government.
I mean, you've mentioned it, Emily.
You've got the best growth in G7.
Now, I think the government are a bit reluctant to major on that too much because they know that the next growth figures will take account of the Iran war.
Yeah, there's two things going on.
There's like, for some reason, which is basically statistical, our growth tends to be sort of...
It tends to come at the start of the year and the first quarter is good.
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