Myrriah Gossett
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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And because of how much they were involved in the financials of this story, like all of Nicole's points, like it was also intertwined that to leave any of these things out about these places wouldn't be doing the story justice at all.
You'd be missing a huge, essentially other character in this story, which was Sophie's belief systems, which was so integral to how she justified so much of her actions, how she justified
the adoption of these girls in the first place, like so much of this was the driving motivating factor to, you know, not to put, you know, real people in the quote unquote, like title of a character, but we are telling a story, right? Like, and so in order to flesh out the character, you need the backstory. And that's so much of the backstory there.
Yeah, and just to like echo both Erin and Nicole, like the pattern is really what this show is so much about for us. And so it's never like, you know, we had a story we didn't even air from a person that we felt had like kind of more of a vendetta against Sophie than anything else. But it was sort of our first flag indicator, right?
Where we went, okay, this is obviously a point of contention that is happening specifically within, you know, it was around M's Gymnastics. And we were like, I don't know if we fully trust the recounting from this particular person, but it led us to be like, what else is there? And that's when we got corroborated stories from other people from the gymnastics community.
And then we, you know, to Aaron's point, like the way... spoke about the people of Zambia was just like the first of many alarms that went off because we did reach out to like reporters in Zambia and asked about like, we were like, hey, we think this is wrong.
Can you tell us a little bit about what your day to day life is like, like, tell us a bit more about your lived experience, not just what we're finding on the internet or in videos and like, these sort of easily, I don't know, uh, suede materials that are from a white perspective, especially. Like Nicole said, there's the red flags that come up and then there's the alarms that come up.
And so we tried to just say like, hey, here's the pattern of all of the red flags, which then sent up this alarm, which then was like, hey, Chad, you're a person who has this lived experience. You're also a person who does consulting for families that are in transracial adoptions and you actively talk about how to make these homes best for these children.
And so much of what he talked about was you have to raise a child to be prepared for their life as they are, not as how you think they're going to be. And so he made beautiful points about Like you have to actually prepare your child to be a black child living in America. And that does not always look the way that a white parent thinks it's going to look.
And so how do you build the community around your child to make sure that they're fully prepared for that? And based on the lack of community we really saw around these kids, we were very concerned. And that was a big part of the abuse flags that went up for us as we were investigating.
Yeah. And I, and I want to say too, like we, we talked a lot about sharing those pieces of M's journals because we did, you know, we, Sophie is under a microscope because of the case and the police investigations. And so we tried to be mindful of only sharing the things that we felt illustrated what we thought M might be going through within all of this. And to say that the
way this abuse can impact everyone around it is not just for the, you know, quote unquote primary victim. And that we hope that it was done with enough. It's something I still think about a lot.
So I hope we did it to the point where everyone was able to understand that the reason we shared the pieces that we shared and not in like direct quotes was because we wanted to represent M in a way that felt like she was not forgotten in the investigation of all of this.
Um, and also so appreciative of people who shared like the real stories of these kids and like how they are in their day to day life beyond like what's going on in their household that is out of their control.
Um, so, so appreciative to people like Chalice and the police tape we had from the neighbors and the many gymnastics parents who talked to us, um, and other people who, who spoke on background. So, um, um, to put that forward first. But yeah, the, I remember when we were doing the field reporting tour, there was a point where I was like, do we just need to do a whole season on gymnastics?
It was just so wild, like the way it was talked about. And I mean, I, there's been a ton of documentaries about how, I mean, any highly competitive, intense sports, uh, unfortunately does leave doors open for potential, um, I think, abuse when kids are put up to these performance goals that maybe they don't have for themselves anyway.
It's, yeah, sports and kids is a whole other rabbit hole to dive into. But to me, the most important to this particular case was, you know, to the point that Aaron made with that quote from the listener, it's very isolating, right? It's an individual sport, like there are team teams, right?
But it is so concretely based on your individual performance and the pressure that that can put on someone and the pressure on someone who's also still trying to like, learn to fit into a new cultural environment. Like, what a double whammy of a serving of things to get through in life at this point.
Like training for the Olympics, not just like go have fun and learn gymnastics. And then if this is something you're really into, let's step it up.
Yeah. I mean, I think for me, it was like the talking, having Chalice as like a person we could ask questions of and like gut check with, especially around, we had a lot of conversations about how can we do the least amount of harm. on this show.
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