Naomi Saks

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374 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2024 last heard Sep 2024

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And we have to also give that its dignity.
If somebody is in a terrible pain, we are not going to go say, you know what, I really think it's because you're not accepting reality right now.
And, you know, if you only would just take away the story of the pain, you'd feel a lot better.
That's just we don't do that.
So we have to be really careful and we let we be a guest in people's suffering.
We let them lead us and show us where it's going.
yeah i i agree um and i love this question because
We are there for each other and we actually really do.
There's so many multiple layers of suffering and so much of our work is actually tending to colleagues suffering in our own.
I think there is definitely a place, especially physical, we have to be honest, we're mostly talking about physical suffering and nonverbal cues of physical suffering.
can't make up stuff and pretend like we really know.
When that sedated person, are they suffering inside?
I think we have to be really careful about that.
We let other people, we let their family, we let them be the expert in that.
But let's say our colleagues, nurses, doctors, others say, I think this person's suffering.
That is such a great invitation.
Say, tell me more.
What makes you think they're suffering?
And it's usually physical.
And I absolutely think we have a role of saying, in my experience, that's beautiful shared decision making, right?
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