Naomi Saks
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374 appearances
2 recordings
1 series
first heard Feb 2024
last heard Sep 2024
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To say that I've seen about 300 or 400 people in this same condition.
What I notice is they grimace, they clench their fists.
I see that he's groaning.
My sense is that he's in pain and I think he's suffering from that.
And I think there's something we could do about that.
That's quite different than using suffering as a tool to manipulate pain.
a goals of care conversation to push someone into a decision that we want them to be.
Just as a chaplain and as a human, but as a chaplain, this is definitely waters that I mostly swim in all day long.
And I do think that, like I said, there's a place for really supporting people when they think that there's physical suffering and they need to name it.
And that's part of their integrity as a clinician.
And then...
I never let the other part go, which is where are they suffering?
And then I really I just do a light touch where I really ask them.
So this is really this is hooked to you.
How are you doing with this?
And then often I was in the ICU the other day and there was an attending patient.
And she was really encouraging DNR, DNI from a very religious family that actually really believed that that was against their value, that they were supposed to try anything possible.
And every intervention was God's method of healing.
And I could tell that I could feel a pushing and pushing.
And so I talked to her later.
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