Naomi Saks

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374 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2024 last heard Sep 2024

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And just said, God, that seemed really hard.
What was that like for you?
And she said, I cannot see my team go through another code again and I will not do it.
And then we had a moment like she softened, right?
She softened to her suffering.
And she trusted me enough to have a moment of like that she could look into that and see that, yes, she had her clinical judgment, which was fine, but also that there was another processes going on, which was her own suffering.
I think it was beautiful and really resonates with how it shows up for me and how I think of it.
I think the only two things that I like to maybe add is this idea that we can't force people to find meaning, to reknit their identity, to unsuffer themselves at any point.
So these questions of what brings you joy, what gives you meaning, those are very rational humanistic ways.
of a very complex ocean of experiences.
And so I think we need to get even more fluid and also more in touch with our mind body when we ride with people and their suffering.
And then the other thing I think I would also just say is the other beautiful thing is to notice one of my teachers used to say rivers of sanity, or even another teacher said the music behind the words.
It's these moments that people are holding both.
They are both suffering and they're both experiencing moments of beauty, quiet joy, love and peace.
And really actually supporting people in finding and noticing what their essential nature is, even in the midst of suffering.
I think I would love to see a world where we all just sit at the feet of
of people that are able to deal with serious illness and aging and all of this suffering and all of these intense situations and also loss of identity and still find these moments of beauty and peace and love.
I feel like I want to always, whenever I meet them, I want to sell tickets and invite all my friends.
And ask them permission.
Can we all come watch you?
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