Nat Kendall-Taylor

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Marketplace All-in-One · What do American families really care about right now? · 5 Feb 2026 podcast

Maybe it's just me.

Maybe I'm all cattywampus.

Did I do that right?

Yeah, that's a good deployment.

So we see this paradox again and again in our work.

So we have a project that we've been running for the last five years that some folks in this room are involved with called the Culture Change Project, where we both ask people,

to fill out quantitative surveys, and then we do qualitative research.

And you have this really interesting paradox, I don't know what to call it, conundrum, head smacker, where people answer questions that ask them for their support of things like paid family leave and childcare and child tax credit at unbelievably high levels of endorsement.

And then you get them in a group where they're talking with other people about these issues, and it looks totally different.

Right, all of a sudden people are incredibly doubtful and incredulous about whether this is gonna work.

All of a sudden people are very zero summy about who's getting what.

And all of a sudden people get very kind of concerned with evaluating the relative deservingness of particular people or groups of people.

And I'm gonna sound like a broken record or a,

One trick pony, I struggle with all those phrases.

But I mean, the answer to me is mindsets, is that there's these underlying patterns of thinking that may be kind of suspended or not in complete strong shaping force when people are asking how supportive they are of a specific policy.

But wow, when you put them into a context where they're talking with other people and they're thinking about these things,

In reality, those mindsets are there, they are strong, and they lead people to very different ways of reasoning than you see when people are asked to support or not support a particular piece of policy.

So this is one reason why I think, of course, I think this, because this is what we study, but I think

kind of paying attention to the mindsets, not just what people say they're for or against, but really getting deep into the way that people think, not what they know about issues, but really how they think about issues, to me is like at the root of thinking about our strategy for how we make change.

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