Nat Towsen

So all this stuff about how we focus too much on identity politics, I can't sign off on that because I'm not willing to throw trans people under the bus.

And it doesn't sound like he is either,

But I'm not willing to say, oh, it's okay if you don't get the pronouns right.

It's okay if you deny someone's identity.

It's okay if you want gay people to keep it to themselves as long as you vote for clean energy.

I'm not with that.

We've got to be intersectional about this stuff.

But I think the reason that it comes off as scolding is because it's not backed by economic policy.

It's not backed by labor rights.

So when someone is poor and racist and you tell them it's another racist problem, yeah, they're going to keep being racist.

You can't talk people out of it.

exclusively by saying don't be racist i agree with that you can't scold people out of these things but you have to improve their material conditions and i don't think he's willing to say democrats haven't done that but like it's not scolding that caused trump to win that feels like that felt like an over it's almost like he's countering the culture the culture war argument with more culture war essentially

I mean, a lot of you hear this.

I mean, I think some of the trouble I had and maybe we need to define terms better in the future is saying, well, the left does this.

The left does that.

Are we talking leftists or are we talking Democrats who are essentially a center left center party?

Because I was like, I don't know.

It also bothers me, this idea that like.

You can't have discourse anymore because people yell at you, you know, they're watching kids get murdered on their phones like they're maybe it's more than passion.

And if you don't agree with them, they won't let you talk.