Natalie Joy

And if you did, I said, please just be honest with me.

It's not something... Well, I was just kind of giving you sort of an opening or an opportunity to be... Because we didn't have great communication.

Again, like you don't like to text...

Our phone calls were very far and few between.

I felt like there was this distance that was growing.

And so I was like, huh, maybe he wants to start dating other people.

And so I was like, let me just throw this out there and see what how his response was.

And you were like, no, absolutely not.

And I didn't realize that my asking you that question would have made you upset.

You didn't tell that to me.

So.

You know, I was literally just trying to like fish to see what was going on because I didn't know where we were at a variety of times after we left Naples, more or less, I think.

They just found out.

From watching the show back?

Pretty much, yeah.

Well, John and I had broken up, and, you know, I just didn't, I was like, what's the point now?

Like, nobody... They weren't curious?

I mean, they're living their own lives.

Like, my youngest was starting his first job in New York.

You know, like, everybody's off doing their own thing.