Natalie Joy

And I think as fans, sometimes I think we don't, you know, we don't like see the players almost as like it's human in a way, right?

Like online discourse is like, you know, you're just like, holy shit, you know, like fans can be pretty harsh.

And also just like when a player's hurt or tired, I think as fans, we're just, you know, it's like for anyone who plays like fantasy football or Madden, it's just like, if your player's rated a 99, you're like, well, he's a 99.

Yeah.

He's always going to play like a 99.

You know, but like you told your story about your house burning down, you're a father, you're a husband.

Yeah.

people have good days of work and bad days at work and then like Danny talking about it like at the end of the game you know like you you've been running and going a hundred percent for like all game long and there's times where like you can't move your arms you're so tired and like it's like fans don't like see that side I feel like of the football game and I feel like players don't talk about it as much because I feel like you guys don't want to sound like you're making excuses for stuff like that

But I thought it was just really fascinating to hear that conversation.

It just felt like the human side of football where, you know, you guys, you're putting your heart out there and, you know, there's a million things going on in your world where it's just like when fans are just like,

you know, why don't you catch the ball?

You know, like now I'll be like, it's the fucking ball, you know, like I'm watching the game and you know, you know, like yesterday with the Packers, it was really windy or things like that.

It's things you can't see as a fan visually in the game.

Like how as a player, like, did you, yeah.

Did you ever feel like, you know, you wanted to defend yourself at times if you had a bad game or do you wish sometimes fans could, could know that side of the game a little bit more?

What is your most memorable play as an NFL player?

That's funny.

Are you following the league nowadays or do you kind of mentally kind of check out a little bit?

Are you following friends?

Are you still like a Green Bay Packer fan?