Natalie Joy

Thankfully, we haven't experienced a situation like that scary, but there have been moments for like...

you feel like you're in crisis you know as a dad yes and as a husband and obviously can be scary but there's certain moments where you really feel like you're like you're stepping up for your family in a way in that moment did you kind of have that feeling where it's just like it feels like the world's coming down on you and falling apart in a way but at the same time there's like a calmness you have because like you're in dad mode you're in husband mode you're kind of like protecting the family

What is, uh, as far, how did you and your wife kind of work through all that with all that chaos?

Like we, we talk a lot about relationships on this show, but like, how did your, you and your wife, like make sure you stay connected and on the same page?

Because I think, you know, when times get scary, you know, sometimes you, it's easy to disconnect from, you know, your partner and things like that.

How'd you guys do that?

Back to Special Forces, what was the challenge that really you hated the most?

I want to talk a little ball with you as a Packer fan.

I am curious.

Danny and I were talking at dinner, and we were just talking about his time in the league.

But I was fascinated to hear him just talking about, as a fan of football, I'm just a fan, right?

I watch it.

It's my Dungeons and Dragons, right?

Right.

It's like...

I ride for my team.

It's not my life.

You know, I'm not playing.

I'm not like doing the thing.

And then when like, you know, my team loses, I'm like bummed about it.