Natalie Joy

Mm-hmm.

Shout out, Zach.

Well, in tandem with the podcast, do you think that we're talking about reality TV, their presence and their storyline on this last season of Beverly Hills and their separation?

Like, is that something that like they're going to bring up in court?

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Thank you.

No, it was not.

Yeah.

I think about, like, the Valley last season compared to this season with just, like, Jesse and Michelle.

Like, obviously, they still have stuff going on, but they're actually able—they're, like, out of it enough now that they can, like, communicate with each other like people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's like... So well in quotation marks, too.

So well, yeah, but obviously it's like with divorce, like...

Listen, both my parents like were married and divorced before they got together.

And like all my siblings are half siblings and stuff from that.

So like I'm no stranger to the dynamics of this.

And I've watched my parents relationships with their like ex-spouses like evolve over the years, especially with my siblings and stuff.

And it's like even like I lived with that my whole life.