Natalie Joy

Oh, you did?

So y'all had a moment after the show?

And whose decision was that?

Who reached out?

Okay.

What was that feeling of wanting to reach out to him?

There was also a big moment recently.

throughout that I think might have been right before your breakup, the something happened on the streets of Vancouver.

Vanell, I'd like to kind of have you clear that whole situation up and get into kind of the details of it all, just because the show didn't.

So can you tell us what happened in that?

Vanell, did you feel like he listened and then responded in y'all's communication?

I don't think you said that you felt like Jorge talked at you and not with you.

Do you still feel that way?

Present?

Like looking back at those conversations.

Is there a part of you that regrets walking away that day?

Is there anything you want to say to Jorge?

Due to Derek's incredible skincare routine, he and Pfeiffer may not have looked it, but they were in fact 20 years apart in age.

While they ended the journey with supportive parents and a commitment of staying together, life off camera pulled them in different directions.

Unfortunately, Pfeiffer is celebrating her birthday in Japan and is sad to not be here, but Derek, can you explain what happened post-filming?