Natalie Kittroweth

And I'm thinking specifically of her husband.

Okay.

It sounds like her husband is not actually that bothered by this relationship.

But Kashmir, how does something like this progressed?

How much of this dynamic is specific to Irene and her very particular circumstances?

I understand that people are increasingly using chatbots in more intimate ways, but is this version a little out there?

Right, right.

I mean, the truth is that partnership is also about challenging each other, right?

Did you talk to Irene about any of this, about these blurred lines between reality and this created fantasy world?

After the break, I talked to Kashmir about what happened next with Irene and Leo.

And can I just say, you're going to want to stick around for this one.

Kashmir, I cannot wait to hear what has happened to Irene since this episode aired.

So, let's cut straight to the chase.

How are Irene and Leo doing?

Is she still dating her AI boyfriend?

Okay.

That's a lot.

We got to unpack all of this.

So let's start from the beginning.

How did this happen?