Natalie Winters

Joining us, former Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs and MSNOW political analyst Rick Stengel, staff writer for The Atlantic and MSNOW political analyst Ashley Parker, retired four-star general and MSNOW military analyst General Barry McCaffrey, and former U.S.

Army officer

captain in the JAG Corps and former assistant U.S.

attorney for the District of Connecticut, Margaret Donovan.

It's great to have all of you.

General McCaffrey, I'm going to start with you.

What is your take?

What are you watching for with this story of the downing of a F-15 fighter jet?

What does it signify to you about where this war is headed?

We have absolutely devastated the Iranian forces, General, but it also appears that it is not true, as the president has stated, that we managed to wipe out their air defenses and leave them with few options.

I mean, it is a crime.

I'm surprised to see a mayor of a major city trying to suggest that it's not a criminal offense to be in the country.

Okay, guys, guys, please stop talking over each other.

I can't hear you.

You're both talking at the same time.

The viewers cannot hear either of you.

Please, Natalie, let the mayor.

Mr. Mayor, explain why you think Natalie's being racist.

No, but we could all use a travel agent.

I had some travel problems.