Natasha Tiku

They're trying.

They're not getting the broader viewership.

But I think we're increasingly seeing that that doesn't necessarily matter for them because they have the money.

They want cultural clout.

They want influence.

They want to be able to, you know, have deal flow from founders in the industry.

And for that, it's working.

Like, normally, if you're a business, you have to get... But it's not what... Natasha... But they're not... But the point... It's their marketing budget.

It's just their marketing budget.

Sure, sure, sure.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't want to say that, you know, it's exclusively deal flow.

I actually think, you know, like before Andreessen Horowitz brought all this stuff in-house, they had the guy who's running their new media thing, Eric Tornberg.

Mark Andreessen was an investor in his –

podcast network.

I think I might have been one of the only listeners to these podcasts, but they explicitly talked about like it was called upstream.

You know, they wanted to see these ideas and they have they have so much more cultural influence than they used to have.

Like, I really felt like the VC industry was kind of falling off.

They have been able to change young people's minds about defense work.

They have been able to, you know, rehabilitate Palmer Luckey's public image.