Nate Silver

And he seems to be fairly popular.

And there's a big debate on the left in particular about how much of an electoral penalty there is for being on the left as opposed to centrist or moderate, right?

You know, and sometimes what you want, if you want to push things to the left, is you want somebody who comes across as being reasonable and moderate, even though they actually are kind of pushing things in direction behind the scenes, right?

Like in some ways, Kamala Harris was like the opposite of that, right?

The centrists all think she was way too liberal.

The liberals all think she was a sellout centrist on Gaza and other stuff.

Getting worst of both worlds.

Right, and that's just a matter of maybe not having—maybe it's a skill thing.

Maybe there's not all that much raw political talent there, even though in some ways she ran a better campaign than I thought she might.

But Mamdani has a lot of political talent and kind of a proof of concept that I don't know you're seeing elsewhere.

I mean, on the GOP side, we'll talk.

I don't know, right?

It seems like I don't quite get—

The J.D.

Vance appeal very much at all, right?

He only won one election before becoming vice president.

He won by a relatively narrow margin in Ohio, which is now a quite red state, right?

You know, Rubio you could see more appeal.

Yeah, someone who's in that mix.

You know, I think this Iran thing is also going to cause a big split.