Nate Swanson

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685 appearances 5 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 10 Sep

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ABC News Daily · Will Trump 'blink first' and end the war? · 21 Apr 2026 podcast

negotiating away the Islamic Republic.

But I don't think that's what these talks in Islamabad are about.

I think it's a much, much narrower scope.

And I do think it is in the interest of both parties to end the war, to de-escalate and maybe find some mutual ground here.

So I think that is possible.

But it's not going to change who Iran is.

Well, two things on that.

So the first is just there's a lot of posturing going on on both sides.

Will they be there?

Won't they be there?

And I think that's mostly noise.

For the most part, it's just trying to get the strongest position going into talks.

For J.D.

Vance's role, I think Iran doesn't trust, you know, Witkoff and

Wyckoff in particular, but Wyckoff and Kushner in tandem.

Twice now Iran has been negotiating with Wyckoff, and a war started, or an attack started.

So for them, I think they perceive Vance to be...

less supportive of this war, which I think is probably accurate, and it has a lot of U.S.

media reporting that, and more motivated to end this because this does not fit with the ideology that he espoused, which is kind of an America first, no silly wars abroad.

So I do think J.D.

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