Nathalie Cabrol

And then you have relaxation techniques.

Some people meditate.

I can't.

I am not a good person that can meditate.

Or if I do, I don't know about it.

But yeah.

My way of doing things and taking my mind off the situation I'm in is by singing in my head.

I love music or hearing music.

And in fact, knowing the kind of song I'm singing, I know about the length of time that I'm staying underwater as well.

So this is how, you know, so this is my own way.

People have different ways.

All sorts of music can be classical, can be pop music, you know, just songs.

When you really know that you are relaxed, and something I experienced actually at 20,000 feet, which was the greatest experience of my life in those terms, is when you forget that you have water around you.

At that point, you cannot tell whether you are the water or water is you.

There is actually no separation anymore.

And I felt that when I was training in a swimming pool, I never could have imagined that I would feel that way once on top of that volcano.

And it happened.

And it was absolutely amazing.

It was, you know, we were talking about how life consciousness permeates the universe.

At that point in time, on that volcano, that day,