Nathan Barry

Everyone was telling me like social media and all of this is going to drive the sales.

But it was really email that drove the sales.

I made $12,000 in the first 24 hours.

One thing that I'm worried about is AI taking out the bottom rung of every career ladder.

But I worry that if AI eliminates the bottom rungs of all of these jobs, then... You talk about the creator flywheel, how that's different from traditional marketing funnels.

Every step moves super smoothly into the next.

It gets easier with each rotation.

We can optimize our conversion rates, make our landing page better, calls to action, all of that.

YouTube is a very algorithm-driven platform.

So if you have 10,000 subscribers, that is not a guarantee that you get 10,000 views.

We can complain about the new social media algorithms, or you could instead... Spotify offered you $200 million and you turned it down?

Uh...

Thanks for having me on.

I like to make money.

And if you want to make money, you probably either need to be an entrepreneur or maybe pursue a career in sales, which I guess is pretty entrepreneurial in itself.

So maybe when I was 12 or 13, around that time, I noticed that

we really didn't have much money as a family.

So I noticed a lot of conflict that came from that and just struggles.

And so I thought like, okay, I gotta figure out how I can make money so that I'll never have those same struggles in my life.

And so I had a bunch of different ventures.