Nathan Gower
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard 8 Jul
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And because they're not your typical out-of-work claimant, the amounts they receive aren't typical either.
There's one other massive thing to mention here.
Because these hypothetical claimants are on the top level of health benefits, they're exempt from the benefits cap.
This is a policy brought in by the then-Chancellor George Osborne in 2013 to limit how much money a household could receive in benefits.
For a single adult with no kids outside London, it's capped at about £15,000.
Inside London, it's about £17,000.
I am all about the high fibre content, Tim.
If we want to have a proper analysis of incentives when it comes to working versus being on benefits, we have to look at what happens to someone's actual income, the amount they get in their bank account, as they move from benefits into work.
Now, you could try and do that for Jeremy Hunt's examples, but these are people who have been assessed as having severe disabilities.
So there's a good chance that many of them wouldn't be able to make that transition, though hopefully some would.
Instead, I asked Edwin to run the numbers for perhaps a more typical scenario, someone who's still disabled, but less so.
So take a single renter in Newcastle.
They're out of work and get a more moderate level of disability benefit, as well as support for their rental costs.
Their income from benefits would be about £16,000.
But if they start working full-time on the minimum wage, that income would rise to £28,000, £12,000 more.
I should say that figure is based on them keeping the £6,000 that they were getting in personal independence payments.
So that's a disability benefit, but it's not an out-of-work benefit.
You can get it while you're working, but even without it, they're still better off.
Edwin Latimer again.
Yes.
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