Nathan Johns

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3,934 appearances 33 recordings 2 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 5d ago

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The Counter Ruck: The Irish Times Rugby Podcast · Why are New Zealand embarking on their own Lions tour? · 7 Aug 2026 podcast

But if World Rugby is saying, for the most part, we're going to move away from that, and two of their biggest brands, maybe French Rugby is probably the only comparable brand right now in the world to those two, are saying, well, actually, we still think there's a huge value in this. voice-verified

What does that mean for the international landscape? voice-verified

I think, I don't know, worry is a strong term. voice-verified

What I would say is I think as much as I cannot wait to watch this series and if you were a Kiwi fan, you'd love even watching the midweek games because you're going to see some players blooded and voice-verified

Certainly, one of the problems in Ireland is that we don't get enough opportunities to blood players at the level below international level because the provincial games are so important for budget reasons, etc. voice-verified

And they always have to be competitive. voice-verified

And so to get a tour like that, where all of a sudden you've got three, four games, we talk about South Africa all the time and Razzy Erasmus doing his regeneration and throwing in random players or changing 15 men from one test match to the next because he can. voice-verified

If you give him next year or whenever... voice-verified

the reciprocal tour is I think you said it's in two years time but if you give him another extra four games against pretty decent New Zealand franchises to pick a bunch of 20 21 year olds that's not good that's good for South African rugby not necessarily good for everyone else I just so I don't know if they're worried what I would say is I think there's a risk that does this devalue New Zealand South Africa if they're playing each other this often all the time and it's not like I know they play each other in the rugby championship every summer but voice-verified

I don't know. voice-verified

Maybe you're right. voice-verified

Maybe the example of cricket in the ashes being every two years means that's not the case. voice-verified

What I would say is if these two things can coexist, I think world rugby won't necessarily mind. voice-verified

But if this happens and all of a sudden France go, oh, well, hang on. voice-verified

Why don't we... voice-verified

go to South Africa for a three match tour and South Africa saying, well, we want to host New Zealand and France in our summer and world rugby be damned, then that's a different conversation. voice-verified

But I think so long as this doesn't cannibalize what world rugby is trying to do, what world rugby is trying to do is ultimately be better global citizens. voice-verified

And, you know, Japan got a game against Ireland, Fiji got a game against England. voice-verified

Whereas if there was three match tours, that wouldn't have happened and that's valuable and that's good. voice-verified

And we should applaud that. voice-verified

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