Nathan Johns

They've got Lions this weekend.

Connacht are up in Glasgow and Munster are down in Pretoria for the quarterfinal.

So we're back on it in terms of provincial bandwagon.

That's it today.

Our thanks as always to Gordon.

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This episode was produced by John Casey and we'll be back in your feed looking ahead to the URC knockouts later this week.

Hello and welcome from the bowels of the Sandman Stadium in Bilbao.

Leinster have been beaten 41-19 in what is now a fifth consecutive Champions Cup final defeat when they've reached this stage.

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Gerry Thornley, hello.

It's been a couple of hours now.

We've been working away since full time.

Now that thoughts have digested ever so slightly, what did you make of that?

Is this the worst of those final defeats?

So 2019, Sarri's up in Newcastle.

22 in Marseille against La Rochelle, 23 in Dublin against La Rochelle, 24 in London in Tottenham against Toulouse and now 26 in Bilbao.

Is this the worst because the gulf was so big?

And bear in mind, three is seen as good.

So they're way over that.