Navin Girishankar
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first heard Jun 2026
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fully accept your point that over time like diffusion is going to happen you can't prevent it but whether you can change the timetable is an open question especially when it comes to chips and that timetable can be critical depending on where you are in your competition with China for example would you agree with that point?
And you see that happening already.
And you see that happening already.
And they can start creating ecosystems that prevent us from entering them.
They can advance faster than us.
And then now we're not close to where innovation is happening.
All of those things are true.
But at the same time, taking that off the table is a real challenge.
Like I find it very difficult to say we're going to unilaterally not use this instrument if we can use it.
I think the challenge is or the question is how do you use it where it really hits the mark rather than sort of taking a buckshot approach and using export controls all over the place for every problem, which is really what I think sometimes we over index on that.
Such a great rundown of so many different issues and how they're connected.
I would just say that...
You make a very compelling case, like focus on innovation and innovating faster.
That's really the only long-term way of staying ahead and remove the obstacles to doing that.
Because trying to apply an export control on a model is exceedingly difficult.
I don't know how you would implement that and enforce it effectively.
But the second thing I would say is just look at what is happening in the PRC, which is a real commitment to diffusion and a real commitment to using AI in various realms of the economy.
And I wonder whether our challenge now, especially coming on the heels of a, you know, on the run-up to an election, skepticism about AI and fears about it are like the overwhelming thing.
And I think it might be getting in the way of our
staying ahead in the tech race and getting all kinds of economic benefits from that.
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