Navin Girishankar

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212 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 29 Jun

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Like we, the economic policies, the national security policies of the last 75 years, 80 years, really are not crafted for the moment that we're in.
And this raises a question for me, you know, I think we need a significant public sector reform effort.
I put out a piece in Foreign Affairs saying, America needs economic warriors.
And it was kind of a...
The title was the title, but the main argument was like we need to retool government to do the things that it has to do in this moment.
And that means not only efficiencies, but also new capabilities that we do not currently have.
The administration deserves some credit for doing that with tech force and other things like that.
But we're far from that.
And I just wanted to get your thoughts.
I think you were pretty optimistic about what Doge could do and some of these other things.
But where do you think we are now?
Everybody who tries to change these things gets... I totally agree with that.
But there are better and worse ways of doing reform, don't you think?
Like, I mean, I think that some people would argue that the Doge effort has left some bureaus like Swiss cheese and the holes are not where you need those holes to be, right?
Yeah.
And I think that's the moment that we're in, Mark.
Like, I feel that we need American institutional reformers like par excellence who know how to do this, who can face the interests that are going to resist against it, but also are imaginative in terms of thinking about the capabilities that government needs in this era of AI, which we're far from thinking.
We're not there yet, right?
Yeah, I hear that.
I want to ask you, there's a lot of talk about what policy do we need for AI.
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